Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Cam Install

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-13-2001, 10:20 PM
  #1  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Ken98Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Berkley, MA
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Cam Install

Any of you home installers use a degree wheel? Thanks Ken
Old 11-13-2001, 10:22 PM
  #2  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Ken98Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Berkley, MA
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Cam Install

Oh by the way. I love the site much faster. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
Old 11-13-2001, 10:24 PM
  #3  
TECH Resident
 
flyin red TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Barbaria
Posts: 943
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Cam Install

How hard is it to degree a cam and does anyone know how much the tool costs?

I have the hammer in my closet...needs to be installed at a 108IC and I am bent on doing this myself.
Old 11-13-2001, 10:28 PM
  #4  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Ken98Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Berkley, MA
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Cam Install

I did it myself and did not use a degree wheel. Is this that bad?
Old 11-14-2001, 07:01 AM
  #5  
On The Tree
 
y2kz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Fowlerville, MI
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Cam Install

I didn't use one either. Just lined up the timing marks. The pin on the front of the cam controls degreeing. I believe the degreeing is ground into the cam, and you'd have to remove the pin to actually degree it in yourself.
Old 11-14-2001, 07:40 AM
  #6  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Ken98Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Berkley, MA
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Cam Install

Thanks I was hoping that was the answer. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
Old 11-14-2001, 07:54 AM
  #7  
On The Tree
 
Y2K Camaro SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: West Palm Beach
Posts: 104
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Cam Install

dot to dot
Old 11-14-2001, 08:56 PM
  #8  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
MyLS1Hauls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Cam Install

With a stock timing chain setup, you can not degree in a cam. Yes, you could skip a whole gear tooth, but thats a rather large change. The major problem with the stock chain is that is has lots of play in it, which alters valve timing. You'd need either a Comp Cams chain set or a Cloyes.
Old 11-14-2001, 08:57 PM
  #9  
TECH Senior Member
 
BIGBOS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Chi-Town, IL
Posts: 11,603
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Cam Install

Yea
Old 11-14-2001, 09:14 PM
  #10  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (10)
 
turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: TX
Posts: 686
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default Re: Cam Install

So when I do mine do I have to do anything? Or do I just pull out the old cam and slide in the new one? Or do I have to line marks or something up???!?! <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0">

I thought all you do was slide in the new one?

Casey
Old 11-14-2001, 09:28 PM
  #11  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
StreetStalkerZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Boggy Creek
Posts: 1,528
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Cam Install

Turbo,when you slide the new cam into place and put the timing gear and chain on you have to line the crank gear dot up at 12 o'clock and line the cam gear up at 6 o'clock then slide the chain over,tighten it down to spec.,then turn the sprocket with your hand to make sure it free spins without digging into the cam plate.
Old 11-14-2001, 09:39 PM
  #12  
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Kevin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kennesaw GA
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Cam Install

I didnt use a degree wheel either. Just dot to dot. You'll see the "dots" they are talking about when you have it apart.

Kevin
Old 11-14-2001, 10:21 PM
  #13  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (10)
 
turbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: TX
Posts: 686
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default Re: Cam Install

Thanks StreetStalkerZ. BTW do you have a TC or is it stock with your time in the sig?

Casey
Old 11-14-2001, 10:30 PM
  #14  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Ken98Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Berkley, MA
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Cam Install

Do most people keep the stock chain when they do a cam install?
Old 11-14-2001, 11:08 PM
  #15  
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Kevin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kennesaw GA
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Cam Install

I kept the stock chain but couldnt hurt to change the chain since youve already got it apart. I didnt cause I was already pushing the wallet limits on the heads/cam purchase.

Kevin
Old 11-14-2001, 11:09 PM
  #16  
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Kevin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kennesaw GA
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Cam Install

Also it wouldnt be a bad idea to upgrade the oil pump while your at it to. They have been known to fail a few times.

Kevin
Old 11-16-2001, 11:12 AM
  #17  
Launching!
 
JaSSon00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Houston
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Cam Install

dot to dot is no advance/retard, i dot to dotted mine.
Old 11-17-2001, 12:01 AM
  #18  
11 Second Club
 
Bluestreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: Cam Install

[quote]Originally posted by Ken98Z:
<strong>Do most people keep the stock chain when they do a cam install?</strong><hr></blockquote>

While you're in there, it's only another half hour (and $29.99) to change the chain. Drop the oil pan, unbolt the oil pickup (be very careful not to drop the bolts, I tied dental floss around them when they were lose) and remove the oil pump from the crank snout. Replace the chain (be very cogniscent of the placement of the timing marks' position). Replace the oil pump, torque down the oil pan (I suspect you could reuse the oil pan gasket, as mine was in pristine shape, but I took the time to replace the gasket - it took all out of 30-seconds with a die grinder and a soft abrasive pad to clean the old gasket off the pan) and you've replaced the timing chain and bought yourself another 30,000 to 50,000 miles that you don't have to worry about that item. It took another 30 minutes to do (that was taking my time) and you may as well do it while you're so close to it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:37 PM.