Pulley cause high RPM miss???
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Pulley cause high RPM miss???
Ok I installed a pulley on my car a few days ago along with some new plugs. Afterwards I noticed at high rpm's (above 5k) the car would have a small miss.
I am wondering if anyone else has had this problem before? The pulley came off of my friends 99 SS camaro and he didnt have any problems like this with it.
If this miss is caused from the pulley then I would like to know exactly how the pulley causes the miss and if there is a fix for it.
[ December 23, 2001: Message edited by: Bad Habit Bird ]</p>
I am wondering if anyone else has had this problem before? The pulley came off of my friends 99 SS camaro and he didnt have any problems like this with it.
If this miss is caused from the pulley then I would like to know exactly how the pulley causes the miss and if there is a fix for it.
[ December 23, 2001: Message edited by: Bad Habit Bird ]</p>
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Re: Pulley cause high RPM miss???
If the pulley is out of "balance", it can cause false knock in the upper RPMs. Some of the early SLP pullies did this. Another thing to look into is your spark plug wires. Make sure all are properly seated on the coils and plugs. If you can, autotap your car. This will give you a much better idea of what is going on.
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Re: Pulley cause high RPM miss???
I had some NGK TR6's and gapped them at .046 and then talked to some people and they told me they should be gapped at .039 so I gapped them to .039. I was having a miss at high rpms with them gapped both ways.
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Re: Pulley cause high RPM miss???
I checked the pulley and it is perfectly straight when the car is running. we used an impact to put it on but I dont think they torqued it down to 240 ft/lbs.
could this have caused the crank position sensor to freak out or anything which would make the computer think the car has a miss but really only be pulling timing?
I am getting about 4 degrees of KR at WOT in 3rd and 4th gear, and this is when the missfires show up as well. it also feels/sounds like the shifter is vibrating some when under load at WOT in these gears.
any ideas?
could this have caused the crank position sensor to freak out or anything which would make the computer think the car has a miss but really only be pulling timing?
I am getting about 4 degrees of KR at WOT in 3rd and 4th gear, and this is when the missfires show up as well. it also feels/sounds like the shifter is vibrating some when under load at WOT in these gears.
any ideas?
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Re: Pulley cause high RPM miss???
[quote]Originally posted by Bad Habit Bird:
<strong>
I am getting about 4 degrees of KR at WOT in 3rd and 4th gear, and this is when the missfires show up as well. it also feels/sounds like the shifter is vibrating some when under load at WOT in these gears.
any ideas?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Are the misfires occuring on one particular cylinder or a pair of cylinders, or are they randomly dispersed?
\chris
<strong>
I am getting about 4 degrees of KR at WOT in 3rd and 4th gear, and this is when the missfires show up as well. it also feels/sounds like the shifter is vibrating some when under load at WOT in these gears.
any ideas?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Are the misfires occuring on one particular cylinder or a pair of cylinders, or are they randomly dispersed?
\chris
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Re: Pulley cause high RPM miss???
the missfires are showing up on 8 the worst but they show up on 1 and 3 sometimes too.
So far I have had TR6's, Bosch plugs and TR55's in the car. and the problem has been there with all 3 sets of plugs I have put in the car.
So far I have had TR6's, Bosch plugs and TR55's in the car. and the problem has been there with all 3 sets of plugs I have put in the car.
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Re: Pulley cause high RPM miss???
I would put that stock pulley on for a day and see what happens.
easy swap and maybe the root of the problem. and/or you can check the resistance of the wires
easy swap and maybe the root of the problem. and/or you can check the resistance of the wires
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Re: Pulley cause high RPM miss???
I have swapped the #8 coil to the #2 position but the miss stayed on 8 so I kind of ruled out the possibilites of it being a coil
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Re: Pulley cause high RPM miss???
here is a link to another thread that a guy thinks it could be my springs tell me what you think.
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=1&t=000575
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=1&t=000575
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Re: Pulley cause high RPM miss???
[quote]Originally posted by Bad Habit Bird:
<strong>the missfires are showing up on 8 the worst but they show up on 1 and 3 sometimes too.
So far I have had TR6's, Bosch plugs and TR55's in the car. and the problem has been there with all 3 sets of plugs I have put in the car.</strong><hr></blockquote>
hello, I don't understand why everyone changes plugs <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0"> . 90% of the people have a miss after taking out the stock ones. What are you gaining except new problems? Joe... <img src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" border="0" alt="[guns]" />
<strong>the missfires are showing up on 8 the worst but they show up on 1 and 3 sometimes too.
So far I have had TR6's, Bosch plugs and TR55's in the car. and the problem has been there with all 3 sets of plugs I have put in the car.</strong><hr></blockquote>
hello, I don't understand why everyone changes plugs <img src="images/icons/confused.gif" border="0"> . 90% of the people have a miss after taking out the stock ones. What are you gaining except new problems? Joe... <img src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" border="0" alt="[guns]" />
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Re: Pulley cause high RPM miss???
<img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Now thats a funny one. ACDelco products have both English and Spanish on them.. You had ACDelco from the factory. Joe..
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Back in 99 there was a stike and G.M could not get the OEM plugs so they went with the Denso ( made in japan). I see them on '99 C5s also.
I would have the CPS forced into a relearn via a tech 2 command, but would also question the pully install.
[quote]Originally posted by Bad Habit Bird:
<strong>the stock plugs that came out of the car said "denso" on the not ACdelco. did GM change brands or what?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I would have the CPS forced into a relearn via a tech 2 command, but would also question the pully install.
[quote]Originally posted by Bad Habit Bird:
<strong>the stock plugs that came out of the car said "denso" on the not ACdelco. did GM change brands or what?</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Re: Pulley cause high RPM miss???
Had same problem for 1 1/2 years at 52-5300 solid miss then rpm jump on up to 6200 was running a under drive all time had problem 2 months ago change to a different under drive and ALL problems gone ,no miss , no heseation, pull strong all way up,talk to many and learn some car like one pulley, differant car not like same pulley, also some cars with stock pulley will have a small miss at 52-5300 rpm
i bet $0.02 be pulley
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i bet $0.02 be pulley
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