422 getting installed!!
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422 getting installed!! Just brought the car into MTI today to get the 422 installed - details of what's being put in are in the sig. I will post dyno results as soon as I get them, and track times once I get a good set of drag wheels and a roll cage.
I also got to ride in a 500 RWHP 422 car today (a number I'm hoping to get close to). The thing was fickin' insane for an all-motor and very drivable car. When I got out, I had this sheen of cold sweat on my hands, kind of like what you have right when you get off of a rollercoaster.
The 422's are amazing engines. An M6 with NO weight reduction and heavy tires ran a 10.8x time just recently. Another M6 422 reportedly is still getting 25 MPG highway. What scares me is where this all might be a year from now.
Let's face it - the LS1/6 has got to be one of the most incredible engines ever produced, not only for what it does stock, but for what else you can do with it.
I also got to ride in a 500 RWHP 422 car today (a number I'm hoping to get close to). The thing was fickin' insane for an all-motor and very drivable car. When I got out, I had this sheen of cold sweat on my hands, kind of like what you have right when you get off of a rollercoaster.
The 422's are amazing engines. An M6 with NO weight reduction and heavy tires ran a 10.8x time just recently. Another M6 422 reportedly is still getting 25 MPG highway. What scares me is where this all might be a year from now.
Let's face it - the LS1/6 has got to be one of the most incredible engines ever produced, not only for what it does stock, but for what else you can do with it.
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Re: 422 getting installed!! My ARE built 422 should ship next week and I can't wait. Believe it or not I haven't driven my car since last May (the stock motor had issues) so I'm having big time withdrawals.
Already have the CarTek clutch, now I need to order a Moser 12 bolt.
Good luck with your car!!
Drew
Already have the CarTek clutch, now I need to order a Moser 12 bolt.
Good luck with your car!!
Drew
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Re: 422 getting installed!! [quote]Originally posted by brendon:
<strong>You lucky man! <img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" /> <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
And considerably lighter in the wallet man <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> . It ain't cheap to do this big of a setup, though there are certainly much cheaper ways to get a good setup than what I am doing.
<strong>You lucky man! <img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" /> <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
And considerably lighter in the wallet man <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> . It ain't cheap to do this big of a setup, though there are certainly much cheaper ways to get a good setup than what I am doing.
Re: 422 getting installed!! Weatherguy,
Congrats on the new set up, Sounds awesome. I know you must have already spent a fortune on everything. A buddy of mine did his 422 about 3 months ago at MTI.
Just a piece of advice. Go easy on the rear end. Even going easy on it with the 422 you will still break it eventually. DJ's99SS broke his on drag radials on the feeder of HWY 225 about a month after he had it. These cars are a ton of fun, but they are a bottomless money pit.
Congrats on the new set up, Sounds awesome. I know you must have already spent a fortune on everything. A buddy of mine did his 422 about 3 months ago at MTI.
Just a piece of advice. Go easy on the rear end. Even going easy on it with the 422 you will still break it eventually. DJ's99SS broke his on drag radials on the feeder of HWY 225 about a month after he had it. These cars are a ton of fun, but they are a bottomless money pit.
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Re: 422 getting installed!! [quote]Originally posted by 422Mouse:
<strong>My ARE built 422 should ship next week and I can't wait . . . .
Drew</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know that feeling exactly. BTW, I have been hearing nothing but good stuff about the ARE motors. Meanwhile, the MTI motors have got a very good rep as well. We have got some good people out there working on these motors.
<strong>My ARE built 422 should ship next week and I can't wait . . . .
Drew</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know that feeling exactly. BTW, I have been hearing nothing but good stuff about the ARE motors. Meanwhile, the MTI motors have got a very good rep as well. We have got some good people out there working on these motors.
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Re: 422 getting installed!! Can any of you guys with 422 or larger motor post a dyno sheet along with a list of your mods (& who built it)? I would like to get an idea of what the power curve looks like for a 383 vs 408 vs 422 vs 42X. I am not at all familiar with strokers, but I heard that the bigger cubes = more low end torque. I wanted to get a H/C setup, but maybe it is worthwhile to save up for a stroker.
Thanks in Advance.
John
Thanks in Advance.
John
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Re: 422 getting installed!! Congrats bud! I remember the first time you visited the shop and were in awe at hearing LS1 motors with cams in them. You definitely had (and still have!) the "kid in a candy store" look haha. You are gonna be glad you didn't get the C5 after you take the keys to this bad boy.
Miller, this guy is having the KTRE 12-bolt installed at the same time. Don't scare him about talking about busted stock rearends like Dennis did. LOL!
Tony
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Miller, this guy is having the KTRE 12-bolt installed at the same time. Don't scare him about talking about busted stock rearends like Dennis did. LOL!
Tony
wimpy little 382ci owner <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Re: 422 getting installed!! WS6 John, you will find some dyno graphs posted on this old webpage I created for the MTI 7.0L Corvette packages, keep in mind these are older graphs and things have improved a bit since then.
http://users.ev1.net/~ynot_dv8/MTI7L.html
You will also find a badass graph on PaiN's webpage of his recent MTI LS6 422ci setup. It pulled 520 rwhp and is an A4 car. Basically the same motor as Colonel's
Larry, you there? Anyone have his webpage handy?
Tony
http://users.ev1.net/~ynot_dv8/MTI7L.html
You will also find a badass graph on PaiN's webpage of his recent MTI LS6 422ci setup. It pulled 520 rwhp and is an A4 car. Basically the same motor as Colonel's
Larry, you there? Anyone have his webpage handy?
Tony
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Re: 422 getting installed!! Hey guys, thanks for the thumbs up.
MMiller: What Tony said. You gave me a start for a moment when I thought you said that the 422 broke a 12-bolt. Thanks for the congrats.
Colonel: Thanks for the welcome. Your track times might also eventually convert me to a high-stall auto, but I don't want to do that yet as long as this is a daily driver too.
WS6 John - Tony has a link above. Also, MTI has several dyno sheets on their website at http://www.motorsporttech.com/motors/lsmotor.html , which I just figured out is about identical to the link Tony posted above. Trust me, those dyno runs are for real, I saw one that looked just like them yesterday.
Pro Stock John - Thanks!! Gotta love those cubes.
Tony - Thanks for the congrats, the occasional help/suggestions on these boards, and your willingness to share knowledge. One of the big reasons I got interested in the 422 had a lot to do with your postings about the 383 and your prior engines/experiences. And yeah, I am like a kid in a candy store . . . errr . . . more like a kid who just got off of a rollercoaster after Jeff gave me a ride yesterday. Took me freaking forever to get the grin off of my face.
Thanks again guys.
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MMiller: What Tony said. You gave me a start for a moment when I thought you said that the 422 broke a 12-bolt. Thanks for the congrats.
Colonel: Thanks for the welcome. Your track times might also eventually convert me to a high-stall auto, but I don't want to do that yet as long as this is a daily driver too.
WS6 John - Tony has a link above. Also, MTI has several dyno sheets on their website at http://www.motorsporttech.com/motors/lsmotor.html , which I just figured out is about identical to the link Tony posted above. Trust me, those dyno runs are for real, I saw one that looked just like them yesterday.
Pro Stock John - Thanks!! Gotta love those cubes.
Tony - Thanks for the congrats, the occasional help/suggestions on these boards, and your willingness to share knowledge. One of the big reasons I got interested in the 422 had a lot to do with your postings about the 383 and your prior engines/experiences. And yeah, I am like a kid in a candy store . . . errr . . . more like a kid who just got off of a rollercoaster after Jeff gave me a ride yesterday. Took me freaking forever to get the grin off of my face.
Thanks again guys.
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Re: 422 getting installed!! Lemme make a small clarification on my present converter.... <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
On a drivability scale of 1-10 I'll rate the converters I've had...
Stock converter = 9
Yank Stealth = 10
SY3500 = 6
PT4600 = 2 (yuck!)
This 422 converter = 6
Point being, although this converter is rated as a 4500 stall, you have to remember how much TQ it takes to make the thing actually stall to 4500! It really is a tight converter. Thing is, with major TQ, be it via N20 or large cubes, the converter required for best performance is quite streetable. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
On a drivability scale of 1-10 I'll rate the converters I've had...
Stock converter = 9
Yank Stealth = 10
SY3500 = 6
PT4600 = 2 (yuck!)
This 422 converter = 6
Point being, although this converter is rated as a 4500 stall, you have to remember how much TQ it takes to make the thing actually stall to 4500! It really is a tight converter. Thing is, with major TQ, be it via N20 or large cubes, the converter required for best performance is quite streetable. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
Re: 422 getting installed!! Damn, 500+ RWHP from 5,750 RPM all the way to redline is INSANE! Hey Larry, do ya want me to break the engine in for ya? <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Hopefully the weather will cooperate tomorrow, and we'll see the 422 cid M6 move on up the 10-second list. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> He's also going for 12's in his "tow truck"! <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
Congrats on taking the plunge. I was like you the first time I rode in Jason's car. The only thing I could think of was my '67 Chevy II drag car. That's exactly how hard his car was pulling, and I tried not to pee all over his seat. Luckily he has leather, so it would've cleaned up a little easier. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Hopefully the weather will cooperate tomorrow, and we'll see the 422 cid M6 move on up the 10-second list. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> He's also going for 12's in his "tow truck"! <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
Congrats on taking the plunge. I was like you the first time I rode in Jason's car. The only thing I could think of was my '67 Chevy II drag car. That's exactly how hard his car was pulling, and I tried not to pee all over his seat. Luckily he has leather, so it would've cleaned up a little easier. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Re: 422 getting installed!! Holt ****, 520 SAE corrected RWHP!!! <img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" />
Thanks for the graphs guys. I need to find some time to compare them now. <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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Thanks for the graphs guys. I need to find some time to compare them now. <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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Re: 422 getting installed!! Colonel,
Do you mean by that convertor info that your current monster is street driven?? <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> I was thinking for some reason (maybe wrong) that your car had become almost exclusively a drag car.
The ability to get fantastic launches from a big convertor will eventually drive me over to the auto route, but not for awhile yet . . . I want to see what kind of 60's I can pull on an M6 first after I learn to drive this monster
Do you mean by that convertor info that your current monster is street driven?? <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> I was thinking for some reason (maybe wrong) that your car had become almost exclusively a drag car.
The ability to get fantastic launches from a big convertor will eventually drive me over to the auto route, but not for awhile yet . . . I want to see what kind of 60's I can pull on an M6 first after I learn to drive this monster