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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 01:38 PM
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Well after seeing the results from R.A.T.'s car I had enough interest in it, so I spoke with Joe P. and we agreed to give it a try. I got the same cam as Tony, but I ordered it with a 114 LSA. I am trying to get max power on the street so I am trying to move the power band up a little. Needless to say I am fairly excited about the setup, way more now with this new radical cam. They won't reveal the EXACT specs, but they did say that it has bigger than .570 lift and bigger than the TR224 cam. I do know that it is a split pattern so it should have a pretty nice lope. Well thats it for now, just wanted to share my joy.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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Also I wanted to say thaks to Tony for being a sort of ginny pig. It's because of his results that I did this. Hope it works out. New Sig too. <img src="graemlins/formula.gif" border="0" alt="[Pontiac]" />
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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I think you should rethink the 114LSA choice.
If the cam is big on duration both intake and exhaust you will move your powerband way up there.
I think the 112LSA cam would be a better choice if it is in the 226+ range in duration, unless of course you want to rev to 7200rpms.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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Exactly what I was thinking. I wonder if they have tightened this cam down to a 110 and run more advanced how the performance would be on the street.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 01:47 PM
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I agree,Your peaks r gonna be too high.
If your gonna run the cr primarily on the stret a 112 would work much better..

Good luck Bear.

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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 01:50 PM
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i dont think it will be tooo high...maybe 6500-6600. do you know what advance is being ground in? dont let these guys scare you...someone had to try it.

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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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sounds good to me, I'm looking foward to seein some numbers outta that 114
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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Whether he should go a 112 LSA or lower depends on where the 112 cam outperforms the 114. If the 114 cam basically makes the same power in the midrange, say 4000 rpm and up, and outperforms on the top end, say 6000 rpm and above, then he has made the right choice for street performance. The 114 will idle a little better, has a better chance of passing emissions, and makes the power where it is needed.

For drag racing optimization, I would choose the 112 because the 3500 - 4000 range can be important to getting a good launch from an A4 depending upon the stall. On the street, he'll just go up in smoke with a max launch, so put the power where he can use it, which is the top end.
The 112 does make the converter feel a little tighter, so that aspect is lost with the 114.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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Your forgetting however that the duration numbers both intake and exhaust play a huge role on where the powerband comes in. What you are saying is true for a 221ish cam on 114LSA. But for a 226/23x split duration cam a 114LSA would significantly raise the power peak. That cam would peak at approx 6500 with 112LSA. A 114LSA would push it over 6800 and necessitate a 7200 rpm shift point. Overkill if you ask me.
I am going with a 226/234 557/575 lift 112LSA cam in my A4 Formula. I will let you know how the car idles etc. It is going in for its work on Feb 18th.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 03:10 PM
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lots of people use that ARE 226/234 554/575 112 cam..ive seen it on a 110. Tony's cam (the G5 on a 112) peaks around 6300-6400...that graph in his thread was unlocked through open headers. are you saying that his peak is going to move 500rpm without even knowing the IC of the cam? or the exact duration?

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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 03:13 PM
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I am saying that it will peak higher depending on the duration and IC. How much depends on those missing factors. Could be 250rpm or more difference
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 03:18 PM
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i could see 6700....not for the timid i agree. but lou knows what he's doing.

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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 03:45 PM
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For some of these matters we shouldn't be concerned what the numbers are.

IF the results are what we requested, it doesn't matter if the cam has the "right" numbers...
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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Dohhhh. I am in the process of speaking with Chris at LG. He said that the 112 makes peak at around 65-6600 and you guys were right it may push it up too far to make it usable. Whoever posted in Tony's thread that the people at LG were not helpful certainly didn't speak with Chris. He has taken my phone calls 4 or 5 times today and has been great to deal with the whole time. I know every experience is different but mine has been great. I am pretty sure I will be going with the 112 now. Thanks for all your input people. I will make a final decision later on today.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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DONE!!!! I decided to go with the 112. Lou said the 114 would lose a little hp but move the torque. Seeing what I have already with tons more torque than HP, I decided to stay with a proven winner in the 112. Thanks again to all for the help. <img src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" border="0" alt="[chug]" /> Cheers <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> <img src="graemlins/formula.gif" border="0" alt="[Pontiac]" />
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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congrats....the lope is comming...did lou try to talk you into the new cam they have there?
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by The Underdog:
<strong>congrats....the lope is comming...did lou try to talk you into the new cam they have there?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No not at all. I was speaking with Chris about this. If he was unable to answer my question he just asked Lou. I DID ask Chris about the new cam, and he said it wouldn't be ready for 3 or 4 months. I am having my car done in a few weeks so I need IT NOW.LOL <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> I am hoping for 11.4 or better with a cage and some ET streets.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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you should easily see 11.5 or better. i still you should at least tried the 114.

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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 07:52 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Chris ARE 360:
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That cam would peak at approx 6500 with 112LSA. A 114LSA would push it over 6800 and necessitate a 7200 rpm shift point. Overkill if you ask me.
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Lets assume for a minute, that you are correct in the rpm estimate, 6500 vs 6800. Further lets assume that he will not shift any any higher than 6600. Whether the 114 is leaving some benefit on the table is not the question. The issue is does the 112 make any more horsepower in the relevent range of 4000 - 6600 rpm (or even 4500 - 6600 for street use) than the 114 LSA.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 08:04 PM
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you can also add that if there is any usable HP lost under the curve with the 114, would you miss it with the better idle? doubt it.
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