Hmm is it time to step off the curb?
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Hmm is it time to step off the curb?
Ok mods are in sig. I need some affirmation that I am goin in the right direction <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> I figure the only "boltons" that remain would be things like FTRA and some ASP underdrives. So what is next? I am looking to get a nice improvement with about $1K. Here are some choices:
1) The conservative approach that has been reccommended is "work on your suspension", which is great however tell me how great it feels when you are running that car right next to you 40mph-110 and he is walking away nicely <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
2)Other consideration for me is a b1 cam installed. That will run about 1K after all is said and done and would be a very nice mod that would prob make the car grab easy 11's with a good 60'. I was tryin to stay out the engine till warranty is up, however you gotta pay to play and somethin tells me i wont have the discipline to not touch it. lol
3) A nice N20 kit. Nuff Said.
4) Gears and various other nitnoids.
Hmm decisions decisions eh? <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" />
Let me know what route you would take.
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1) The conservative approach that has been reccommended is "work on your suspension", which is great however tell me how great it feels when you are running that car right next to you 40mph-110 and he is walking away nicely <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
2)Other consideration for me is a b1 cam installed. That will run about 1K after all is said and done and would be a very nice mod that would prob make the car grab easy 11's with a good 60'. I was tryin to stay out the engine till warranty is up, however you gotta pay to play and somethin tells me i wont have the discipline to not touch it. lol
3) A nice N20 kit. Nuff Said.
4) Gears and various other nitnoids.
Hmm decisions decisions eh? <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" />
Let me know what route you would take.
Thanks
Sean
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Re: Hmm is it time to step off the curb?
Gears would pick u up a ton man!! do that first...u will probably pick up 1/2 a second <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
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Re: Hmm is it time to step off the curb?
Gears are NOT going to pick you up 1/2 a second unless you go to 4.10s or something looney like that, I went 2.73s-3.42s, added lca's and only went from 12.23 to 12.08 on my 2000.
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Re: Hmm is it time to step off the curb?
man i promise you if you get 3.73's that torque convertor will really shine!! you'll pick up some mph and go a little quicker and not have to rip into the motor or any of that stuff...i think thats yer safest bet for right now!
Jay
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Re: Hmm is it time to step off the curb?
BTW that $hitty 1.9 60' was on 245 50 16's DR's. Since then i have added 315 DR's. Before... leaving at idle i would have to feather it to keep it from spinning... NOW i can launch full throttle from 3K+ rpms and do nothing but hook, and that is on the street <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Thanks to Cammin for that one ehhe
So i believe the car is begging for more gear <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Sounds like 3.73's, Asp pullies, Hals for the front,FTRA and subframes are going to be ordered in a week... can we all say 11's <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
I think ill get in touch with TNT after that <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
Thanks Guys
Sean
[ February 10, 2002: Message edited by: LS1UltraZ ]</p>
So i believe the car is begging for more gear <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Sounds like 3.73's, Asp pullies, Hals for the front,FTRA and subframes are going to be ordered in a week... can we all say 11's <img src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" />
I think ill get in touch with TNT after that <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
Thanks Guys
Sean
[ February 10, 2002: Message edited by: LS1UltraZ ]</p>
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Re: Hmm is it time to step off the curb?
3.42s are a nice gear for an A4. 3.73s aren't going to give you that much more and 3.42s are a decent improvment over the 2.73s. I had to drive on the interstate every day, do you think I really wanted to have 3.73s at 80mph all the time? the 3.42s already make 80mph around 2500-2600, the 3.73s would have you cruising at about 2900. You should do a bigger converter possibly over gears, why waste $500 (average cost of gears/install) on a crappy 10 bolt? I picked up the 3.42 rear for $300 at Speed Automotive in Chattanooga. And it left me with a backup if I broke it.
[quote]Originally posted by SPRAYN:
<strong>why would u put only 3.42s in an A4 car? 3.42s are for an M6 car...A4s need gear to get them out of the hole</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]Originally posted by SPRAYN:
<strong>why would u put only 3.42s in an A4 car? 3.42s are for an M6 car...A4s need gear to get them out of the hole</strong><hr></blockquote>
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[quote]Originally posted by ExtremeZ28:
<strong>man i promise you if you get 3.73's that torque convertor will really shine!! you'll pick up some mph and go a little quicker and not have to rip into the motor or any of that stuff...i think thats yer safest bet for right now!
Jay</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's my old converter he's using, I bet at the most he would gain 2-3 tenths going to 3.73s. I went to 3.42s with it and only gaine probably 1 tenth, and traction was not a problem. That was with a 1.5 60' time.
<strong>man i promise you if you get 3.73's that torque convertor will really shine!! you'll pick up some mph and go a little quicker and not have to rip into the motor or any of that stuff...i think thats yer safest bet for right now!
Jay</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's my old converter he's using, I bet at the most he would gain 2-3 tenths going to 3.73s. I went to 3.42s with it and only gaine probably 1 tenth, and traction was not a problem. That was with a 1.5 60' time.
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Re: Hmm is it time to step off the curb?
Do you have any real world experience with this in a F body? You drive a rustang don't you? 3.42s are more of a gear for an A4 with the gearing that they have than an M6. A4's need moderate gearing and a big converter to get them out of the hole. The ST3500 is a good moderate converter, if you want to go ***** out and get 3.73s you may as well do a TP4400 or something while your at it. I've ridden in 2 cars with 3.73s, with Headers/ORP it sux at about 80mph, unless you don't mind not being able to hear yourself think.
[quote]Originally posted by SPRAYN:
<strong>why would u put only 3.42s in an A4 car? 3.42s are for an M6 car...A4s need gear to get them out of the hole</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]Originally posted by SPRAYN:
<strong>why would u put only 3.42s in an A4 car? 3.42s are for an M6 car...A4s need gear to get them out of the hole</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Re: Hmm is it time to step off the curb?
well i have heard 4.10s in a 10 bolt might not be a good idea...but i would say 3.73s would be thew ay to go with the stock rear especially with heads&cam....i think u fail to realize the powerband the ls1s have......with short runner intakes they love to rev...esp with a heads/cam packages..i see shift points in the 6500 rpm range.....the more gear the faster u go! <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
oh yeah an jfulcher u would have been way into the 11s with your nawwsss with more gear <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
aren't there plenty of bolt on A4 cars going 11.6-11.7 range with just bolt ons? so why did u only run 12.0s with a 75 shot?
DON'T FEAR THE GEAR! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
[ February 10, 2002: Message edited by: SPRAYN ]</p>
oh yeah an jfulcher u would have been way into the 11s with your nawwsss with more gear <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
aren't there plenty of bolt on A4 cars going 11.6-11.7 range with just bolt ons? so why did u only run 12.0s with a 75 shot?
DON'T FEAR THE GEAR! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
[ February 10, 2002: Message edited by: SPRAYN ]</p>
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Re: Hmm is it time to step off the curb?
Your right I do realize that, that's why I suggested he up the converter as well if he didn't mind losing some streetability. To me going to 3.73s in an auto you lose some streetability on the interstate. He would do a lot better investing that $500 into swapping up to a TP440.
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[quote]Originally posted by SPRAYN:
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oh yeah an jfulcher u would have been way into the 11s with your nawwsss with more gear <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
aren't there plenty of bolt on A4 cars going 11.6-11.7 range with just bolt ons? so why did u only run 12.0s with a 75 shot?
DON'T FEAR THE GEAR! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
[ February 10, 2002: Message edited by: SPRAYN ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wasn't in the 11s because I lacked the basic bolt ons, I had FTRA, the converter he has, 3.42s and a lid/exhaust. With headers I would have been down to 11.7 easily. I was missing quite a few boltons, plus some weight reduction, I ran that at almost 3800 lbs. Those bolt on guys run very high stall converters etc. back to the streetability issue, I have to drive my car every day so I'm not willing to deal with really extreme stuff.
[ February 10, 2002: Message edited by: Jfulcher ]</p>
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oh yeah an jfulcher u would have been way into the 11s with your nawwsss with more gear <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
aren't there plenty of bolt on A4 cars going 11.6-11.7 range with just bolt ons? so why did u only run 12.0s with a 75 shot?
DON'T FEAR THE GEAR! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
[ February 10, 2002: Message edited by: SPRAYN ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wasn't in the 11s because I lacked the basic bolt ons, I had FTRA, the converter he has, 3.42s and a lid/exhaust. With headers I would have been down to 11.7 easily. I was missing quite a few boltons, plus some weight reduction, I ran that at almost 3800 lbs. Those bolt on guys run very high stall converters etc. back to the streetability issue, I have to drive my car every day so I'm not willing to deal with really extreme stuff.
[ February 10, 2002: Message edited by: Jfulcher ]</p>