Cam Duration Lift Piston to valve clearance
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OK would like to know the highest lift/duration
that can be run with out having to notch
the stock pistons .From past experiences .
In a few days I will be able to find out myself
but wouldlike a hint now ;-)
One factor being I will not mill the heads
if its gonna cause problems ,if its not gonna
be a problem then they are getting cut down.
that can be run with out having to notch
the stock pistons .From past experiences .
In a few days I will be able to find out myself
but wouldlike a hint now ;-)
One factor being I will not mill the heads
if its gonna cause problems ,if its not gonna
be a problem then they are getting cut down.
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[quote]Originally posted by A70camaro:
<strong>OK would like to know the highest lift/duration
that can be run with out having to notch
the stock pistons .From past experiences .
In a few days I will be able to find out myself
but wouldlike a hint now ;-)
One factor being I will not mill the heads
if its gonna cause problems ,if its not gonna
be a problem then they are getting cut down.</strong><hr></blockquote>229 is the biggest I would go bro even with milled heads.
<strong>OK would like to know the highest lift/duration
that can be run with out having to notch
the stock pistons .From past experiences .
In a few days I will be able to find out myself
but wouldlike a hint now ;-)
One factor being I will not mill the heads
if its gonna cause problems ,if its not gonna
be a problem then they are getting cut down.</strong><hr></blockquote>229 is the biggest I would go bro even with milled heads.
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There is no one answer to this. It also has to do with the LSA, centerline, and degreeing of the cam.
I'm no cam expert. Maybe Chris B or someone could elaborate. I know just enough about cams to get myself in trouble. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
I'm no cam expert. Maybe Chris B or someone could elaborate. I know just enough about cams to get myself in trouble. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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I really depends on the entire setup - like colonel pointed out. More agressive lobes, as well as greater duration generally have a larger effect on P/V clearance than max lift does. You could have 2" of lift as long as it was all at BDC <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> .
If you are using a cam that no one has used before or is on the edge then you really need to clay it before actually running it. What cam/cam specs are you thinking of going with?
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If you are using a cam that no one has used before or is on the edge then you really need to clay it before actually running it. What cam/cam specs are you thinking of going with?
Chris
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I was thinking of asking this same question.. I have been considering upgrading for a cam with a higher lift, but I am afraid of the piston to valve clearance issue as well. If my heads get milled .030 and I use 7.350 pushrods.. How big a lift could I get away with? Of course you want to get a lift near peak flow #'s.. My peak is at .650, but something between .585 to .595 would be optimal..
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well if you go with the 222--- or the 228 would make a big diffrence in p/v clearance. so it's no point checking till you figuer what you are running. how ever. I belive they where some 228 cams out there but I would check p/v very carfully at that point.
you want too have .100 clerance. at 10degree before for the EX and 10 degree after for the IN.
[ February 27, 2002: Message edited by: One Monkey ]</p>
you want too have .100 clerance. at 10degree before for the EX and 10 degree after for the IN.
[ February 27, 2002: Message edited by: One Monkey ]</p>
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FWIW our Pig cam - 226/226 .591/.591 112 clayed at 0.102 on the intake and 0.094 on the exhaust with GTP stage II 5.3 heads (2.02/1.57) - that was on a 110 IC. I would keep a minimum of 80 thou clearance.
But honestly, there is *no* way to know except by claying it yourself. If you go with something on the edge I would *Definitely* do this. Duration can many times make a larger difference than max lift also.
But honestly, there is *no* way to know except by claying it yourself. If you go with something on the edge I would *Definitely* do this. Duration can many times make a larger difference than max lift also.
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I'm gonna clay it no matter what , I already
have the cam and its is 229 , .580 something
I will make sure I have extra clearance and clay it without head gaskets.
I am also milling the heads , So most likely
I am going to have to touch up the pistons
Hopefully I will only have to change pushrod length if everything else clears .I am running
1.430 double springs and hopefully they will
clear the rocker arms ,otherwise I will be
buying Jesel's :-/ ,if I have to buy those
I wish I had gotten a solid roller.
I see other people are getting away with it
hopefully I can .
And if I have to do that it will be another month before the engine will be running.
have the cam and its is 229 , .580 something
I will make sure I have extra clearance and clay it without head gaskets.
I am also milling the heads , So most likely
I am going to have to touch up the pistons
Hopefully I will only have to change pushrod length if everything else clears .I am running
1.430 double springs and hopefully they will
clear the rocker arms ,otherwise I will be
buying Jesel's :-/ ,if I have to buy those
I wish I had gotten a solid roller.
I see other people are getting away with it
hopefully I can .
And if I have to do that it will be another month before the engine will be running.
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Once I get my setup situated and give the specs to my cam adviser.. Jason99TA <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> I will let you guys know. I am still waiting for these XE-R supercams to produce on the street rather than on paper...