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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Trying to figure out the best one to go with on my head and cam swap. Which ones have you all used and which ones are recommended? Would like to stay <$150.00, like the idea of an infinately adjustable one like the cloyes, but also like the roller thrust bearing on ones like the rollmaster, but have not seen one with both. Also, is the Cloyes a single roller (I think it is)? Lastly, is there still a problem with having to machine the harmonic balancer when using a double roller (I will be installing a 10% underdrive Fluidamper with the install)?
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I have a Cloyes hardened steel single chain on mine. it has about 10k on it no problems.


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Originally Posted by BOWTIE
Trying to figure out the best one to go with on my head and cam swap. Which ones have you all used and which ones are recommended? Would like to stay <$150.00, like the idea of an infinately adjustable one like the cloyes, but also like the roller thrust bearing on ones like the rollmaster, but have not seen one with both. Also, is the Cloyes a single roller (I think it is)? Lastly, is there still a problem with having to machine the harmonic balancer when using a double roller (I will be installing a 10% underdrive Fluidamper with the install)?
jp performance #5615t, use them in all my engines.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Any other inputs? I am ordering some parts for another vehicle from one of the major nationwide performance parts places and could get the Cloyes from them and avoid the dreaded state sales tax and shipping charges I would incur if i order it with my cam and heads.
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jp performance #5615t, use them in all my engines.
Never heard of this one, will have to do some "searching". Where would i get one of those and how much?
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im putting a ls2 chain in when i do my 224 cam soon
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im putting a ls2 chain in when i do my 224 cam soon
I considered that but would like to have the ability of altering my cam timing, plus I plan on degreeing in the cam and would prefer not to have to elongate dowel and bolt holes to accomplish that.
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My cousin and I put the Rollmaster DR chain from www.SDPC2000.com without haveing any problems. We put a 10% underdrive ATI balancer on his vette without haveing to claerance anything.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 12:38 AM
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My cousin and I put the Rollmaster DR chain from www.SDPC2000.com without haveing any problems. We put a 10% underdrive ATI balancer on his vette without haveing to claerance anything.
Thats good to know. Anyone tried a Fluidamper with a doubleroller chain? By the way, was the one you used the one with the torrington bearing? Just curious even though from my understanding roller camms do not really need it.
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Thats good to know. Anyone tried a Fluidamper with a doubleroller chain? By the way, was the one you used the one with the torrington bearing? Just curious even though from my understanding roller camms do not really need it.
your slp/rollermaster are identical to the jp performance chain and all have torrington bearings with them.
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I bought my RollerMaster from TSP. I had not heard much about them, but am going to give it a try.

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Rollmaster double rollers are great for an inexpensive double roller, no clearance issues at all and they come in adjustable, non adjustable...heat treated, non heat treated....standard bearing and torrington bearing configurations. We carry these and usually have them in stock!
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Originally Posted by BOWTIE
Thats good to know. Anyone tried a Fluidamper with a doubleroller chain? By the way, was the one you used the one with the torrington bearing? Just curious even though from my understanding roller camms do not really need it.
The chain that we used did not have the torrington bearing. His car is making close to 500 rwhp and have had no problem's so far.
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I got a used engine with 5615T JP timing chain on it and when i went to go put it back on, i broke the bearing that goes between the engine and the cam gear, where could I get a new one?
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I had a double rollmaster with torrington bearings on my old motor with a 228R cam. I put about 10,000 miles on it with nitrous runs and it was fine when I pulled it out. I run a C5R on my current motor (saves some weight)
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New GM cam and crank gear sprockets, along with IWIS C5R or new C7R timing chain. I went with the latter for my build in progress.
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New GM cam and crank gear sprockets, along with IWIS C5R or new C7R timing chain. I went with the latter for my build in progress.
This! I've messed around with double row chains before, just a headache.
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Originally Posted by Offroadunleashed
I got a used engine with 5615T JP timing chain on it and when i went to go put it back on, i broke the bearing that goes between the engine and the cam gear, where could I get a new one?
See what you started, bumping a 8 year old thread. We can't fault you though. You used the search function and posted your question in a thread that discussed your timing set.
The closest I could find was this replacement Torrington thrust bearing for a Cloyes timing set.
http://www.jegs.com/i/Cloyes/220/9-232/10002/-1

I have a Avon Progear timing set. It does not have the Torrington bearing. The OEM set does not have the bearing either. The way I heard it, the backside of the cam gear can rub against the cam retainer plate, causing wear to that plate. As wear increases, cam walk can occur. With the bearing sets, the bearing takes the wear but there is always contact. The cam retainer plate is cheaper to replace that the Torrington bearing. Easier to find too.
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I broke a dual Rollmaster!

Do it right the first time.

Either a Cloyes 'hex a just' gear set with C5R extreme duty single chain, 'TSP' have,
or get the Hinson C7 chain. You will have piece of mind knowing that your timing gear is as good as it can get.
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