Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker
04-22-2002, 02:35 PM
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Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker I have had my car back from ARE now for a little over a week with the new 436ci Stroker and all I got to say is I cannot get this smile off of my face!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I was not sure how much different the results would be from my ARE Stage II heads/cam, but now after putting some miles on this thing, I truly understand why strokers are worth all the money! The Torque is just NUTS!! No matter how much throttle I give it in 1st or 2nd the tires just ignite!!
We built this thing for low and mid range power because I will be using it mostly for street driving, autocrossing and roadracing. There really was not any headers I wanted to switch to at the moment so I stuck with my TTS 1 5/8" long tubes for now. I was VERY suprised at the peak numbers this thing still made because I thought for sure these small header tubes would be robbing tons of power up top.
Here is the dyno chart:
<img src="http://www.exit28motorsports.com/matt/my436dyno.jpg" alt="" />
The car only has 2 preliminary dyno runs done on it at the moment. Nick and Wade set the A/F to be a bit rich for break-in and told me to put some miles on it and to come back for some final tuning. Also, as you can see, they shut the car down at just over 6000rpm on the dyno and it almost looks like the HP is still climbing.
Here is a comparison of the 436ci dyno vs my previous ARE Stage II heads/cam.
<img src="http://www.exit28motorsports.com/matt/hcvs436.jpg" alt="" />
<small>[ April 22, 2002, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: MattG ]</small>
I was not sure how much different the results would be from my ARE Stage II heads/cam, but now after putting some miles on this thing, I truly understand why strokers are worth all the money! The Torque is just NUTS!! No matter how much throttle I give it in 1st or 2nd the tires just ignite!!
We built this thing for low and mid range power because I will be using it mostly for street driving, autocrossing and roadracing. There really was not any headers I wanted to switch to at the moment so I stuck with my TTS 1 5/8" long tubes for now. I was VERY suprised at the peak numbers this thing still made because I thought for sure these small header tubes would be robbing tons of power up top.
Here is the dyno chart:
<img src="http://www.exit28motorsports.com/matt/my436dyno.jpg" alt="" />
The car only has 2 preliminary dyno runs done on it at the moment. Nick and Wade set the A/F to be a bit rich for break-in and told me to put some miles on it and to come back for some final tuning. Also, as you can see, they shut the car down at just over 6000rpm on the dyno and it almost looks like the HP is still climbing.
Here is a comparison of the 436ci dyno vs my previous ARE Stage II heads/cam.
<img src="http://www.exit28motorsports.com/matt/hcvs436.jpg" alt="" />
<small>[ April 22, 2002, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: MattG ]</small>
04-22-2002, 02:49 PM
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker looks like you gained a 100 ft-lbs across a very wide rpm band. Even in 4th gear it must pull like crazy.
Hopefully with some bigger tubes and tuning you'll shoot above the 500 mark for both HP & TQ.
Hopefully with some bigger tubes and tuning you'll shoot above the 500 mark for both HP & TQ.
04-22-2002, 03:44 PM
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker WOW! Nice numbers man <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Must feel awesome on the street!
Cheers,
Chris
Must feel awesome on the street!
Cheers,
Chris
04-22-2002, 03:50 PM
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker Dam you, for making me want to spend more $$ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Awesome motor!! Grotts & true duals, X pipe, & you are at 500, for sure. Probably pretty close right now. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Awesome motor!! Grotts & true duals, X pipe, & you are at 500, for sure. Probably pretty close right now. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 99 Black Bird T/A:
<strong>Wow, that's far more impressive than the ARE 396 LT4 build up I saw a few days ago that made a "whopping" 353rwhp.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I know the whole story of the car you are talking about. Please do not be a troll and litter my post with the skewed details of that story.
<strong>Wow, that's far more impressive than the ARE 396 LT4 build up I saw a few days ago that made a "whopping" 353rwhp.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I know the whole story of the car you are talking about. Please do not be a troll and litter my post with the skewed details of that story.
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker man this is impressive
You should keep that smile for a very long time <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
You should keep that smile for a very long time <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker How much did that motor set you back exactly? Im guessing its their aluminum blocked one or is it a iron block now?
04-22-2002, 06:08 PM
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Congrats Matt....looks like you exceeded what you were looking for!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I must have missed something. What were you expecting from the setup Matt?
Questions:
-what exhaust setup past those TTS headers?
-what cam specs?
-LS1 or LS6 heads?
-what intake manifold?
-pulley?
-compression ratio?
-bore x stroke specs?
Without the details, its hard for us Techies to absorb completely <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Tony
Questions:
-what exhaust setup past those TTS headers?
-what cam specs?
-LS1 or LS6 heads?
-what intake manifold?
-pulley?
-compression ratio?
-bore x stroke specs?
Without the details, its hard for us Techies to absorb completely <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Tony
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker Off-road Xpipe with no cats running into B&B Route66 Exhaust (rather restrictive/quiet mufflers)
240/240 .600/.600 114LSA Camshaft
ARE Stage 3 LS1 Heads with 2.08/1.60 Valves
LS6 Intake Manifold with ported 80mm BBK T-body
Underdrive Pulley
11.5 to 1 compression ratio
4.100" Bore x 4.125" Stroke
ARP Head Studs and custom ARE Main Studs
Stock Rockers with CompCams Hydraulic Lifters
Pricing for a long block would be around $14K depending on a few options
240/240 .600/.600 114LSA Camshaft
ARE Stage 3 LS1 Heads with 2.08/1.60 Valves
LS6 Intake Manifold with ported 80mm BBK T-body
Underdrive Pulley
11.5 to 1 compression ratio
4.100" Bore x 4.125" Stroke
ARP Head Studs and custom ARE Main Studs
Stock Rockers with CompCams Hydraulic Lifters
Pricing for a long block would be around $14K depending on a few options
04-22-2002, 07:46 PM
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker I don't get to the computer all day and look what I see when I do get on. That is simply awesome.....especially with LS1 heads. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I might have to call Nick and tell him I'm ready to get things moving after seeing that. <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
<small>[ April 22, 2002, 08:08 PM: Message edited by: XLR8NSS ]</small>
I might have to call Nick and tell him I'm ready to get things moving after seeing that. <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
<small>[ April 22, 2002, 08:08 PM: Message edited by: XLR8NSS ]</small>
04-22-2002, 08:17 PM
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MattG:
I know the whole story of the car you are talking about. Please do not be a troll and litter my post with the skewed details of that story.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">FWIW:
I have not intention of littering your post or being a troll, and I too know the full story, I just gave my reaction. I do think the ARE 436 is impressive and congradulations on the set up. Sounds like an incredible, fun torque monster.
Enjoy
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I know the whole story of the car you are talking about. Please do not be a troll and litter my post with the skewed details of that story.[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">FWIW:
I have not intention of littering your post or being a troll, and I too know the full story, I just gave my reaction. I do think the ARE 436 is impressive and congradulations on the set up. Sounds like an incredible, fun torque monster.
Enjoy
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04-22-2002, 08:32 PM
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker The torque never stops! Sweet! I cannot wait to see some times and hopefully get a ride on Sat at the Motown Muscle Meet & Greet.
Tom
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04-23-2002, 04:46 AM
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Black Sunshine/ 00SS:
<strong>Dam you, for making me want to spend more $$ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Awesome motor!! Grotts & true duals, X pipe, & you are at 500, for sure. Probably pretty close right now. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, right after he swaps the motor into an F-body <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong>Dam you, for making me want to spend more $$ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Awesome motor!! Grotts & true duals, X pipe, & you are at 500, for sure. Probably pretty close right now. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, right after he swaps the motor into an F-body <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker Good one Matt, and to all those guys that said on other posts not to go this route, this combination of Matt's is undersquare!! That's right, more stroke then bore! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
04-23-2002, 09:44 AM
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">to all those guys that said on other posts not to go this route, this combination of Matt's is undersquare!! That's right, more stroke then bore!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We'll just have to stay tuned to see how well my oversquare 434ci setup turns out. I'll be at 11.5 CR also, and have a similar cam (244/244) but I opted for LS6 heads instead. This same cam and heads has pulled over 520+ rwhp in some 422ci motors. I wonder if I'll gain anything from the 12 cubes. Haha, probably not.
I think Matt will clear 500/500 with some break-in miles and maybe some tuning.
Tony
I think Matt will clear 500/500 with some break-in miles and maybe some tuning.
Tony
04-23-2002, 10:19 AM
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Re: Results and Dyno Graph of my new ARE 436ci Stroker I want to see this bad boy run! Are you gonna take it to St.Thomas this weekend for the Motown Muscle day?
