New dyno results! 410rwhp/389rwtq - stock heads!
05-09-2002, 01:18 PM
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Re: New dyno results! 410rwhp/389rwtq - stock heads! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>I just dont want my car shaking the doors off and stalling. If this cam will do what is says and not idle my brains out then I'm calling for an order tomorrow!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">With proper tuning there is no reason it shouldn't work fine. Now it's no Comp 216/220 but it wont be any worse then a GM Hotcam...
Paul
<strong>I just dont want my car shaking the doors off and stalling. If this cam will do what is says and not idle my brains out then I'm calling for an order tomorrow!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">With proper tuning there is no reason it shouldn't work fine. Now it's no Comp 216/220 but it wont be any worse then a GM Hotcam...
Paul
05-09-2002, 01:19 PM
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Re: New dyno results! 410rwhp/389rwtq - stock heads! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jsears8:
<strong>Sure you can. Just to throw out some more numbers for comparison sakes. I switched over to a 12 bolt with 4.10s added iron clutch and steel flywheel and lost over 15rwhp from my 398rwhp dyno while still with stock heads. Now Chris98SS dynoed even more then me with stock heads. 402rwhp with Thunder 224 cam, stock rear/gears/FW/DS through the borla and bullet muffler. He added a 12bolt with 4.10s and dynoed 383rwhp no other changes. But I should mention both of our cars ran FASTER with less power. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Does that make it a little easier, I think so.
Moral of the story, Jason's car is putting out the numbers through a stout drivetrain! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> If someone is just looking for a dyno number then throw in a stock rear/gears and watch the numbers shoot up 15-20rwhp. But thats not what it's about. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Also, some cars are stronger then others from the factory. Paul, your old motor is doing Jason quite well. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" />
Justin</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks for your help!
So, Justin, do you have 4.30's or 4.10's. Jason says you have both in his earlier post. You have 4.10's right?
Also Justin, in regards to this statement: "If someone is just looking for a dyno number then throw in a stock rear/gears and watch the numbers shoot up 15-20rwhp. But thats not what it's about. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> "
Maybe I'm wrong, but isnt that what this thread is about?
<small>[ May 09, 2002, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Mike Hoffpauir ]</small>
<strong>Sure you can. Just to throw out some more numbers for comparison sakes. I switched over to a 12 bolt with 4.10s added iron clutch and steel flywheel and lost over 15rwhp from my 398rwhp dyno while still with stock heads. Now Chris98SS dynoed even more then me with stock heads. 402rwhp with Thunder 224 cam, stock rear/gears/FW/DS through the borla and bullet muffler. He added a 12bolt with 4.10s and dynoed 383rwhp no other changes. But I should mention both of our cars ran FASTER with less power. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Does that make it a little easier, I think so.
Moral of the story, Jason's car is putting out the numbers through a stout drivetrain! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> If someone is just looking for a dyno number then throw in a stock rear/gears and watch the numbers shoot up 15-20rwhp. But thats not what it's about. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Also, some cars are stronger then others from the factory. Paul, your old motor is doing Jason quite well. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" />
Justin</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks for your help!
So, Justin, do you have 4.30's or 4.10's. Jason says you have both in his earlier post. You have 4.10's right?
Also Justin, in regards to this statement: "If someone is just looking for a dyno number then throw in a stock rear/gears and watch the numbers shoot up 15-20rwhp. But thats not what it's about. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> "
Maybe I'm wrong, but isnt that what this thread is about?
<small>[ May 09, 2002, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Mike Hoffpauir ]</small>
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Re: New dyno results! 410rwhp/389rwtq - stock heads! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>I just dont want my car shaking the doors off and stalling. If this cam will do what is says and not idle my brains out then I'm calling for an order tomorrow!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nasty,
In Jason's car, he is still using the stock 850rpm idle. At that speed, the car sounds flat out mean. If you wanted to go the stealth route, bump the idle up to 900-950 and you'd probably not notice you had a non-stock cam... (of course it also depends on which catback you have. Have you checked out Jason's sound clips?
<strong>I just dont want my car shaking the doors off and stalling. If this cam will do what is says and not idle my brains out then I'm calling for an order tomorrow!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nasty,
In Jason's car, he is still using the stock 850rpm idle. At that speed, the car sounds flat out mean. If you wanted to go the stealth route, bump the idle up to 900-950 and you'd probably not notice you had a non-stock cam... (of course it also depends on which catback you have. Have you checked out Jason's sound clips?
05-09-2002, 04:51 PM
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Re: New dyno results! 410rwhp/389rwtq - stock heads! Mike, I've got 4.10s. And I agree, the #s are that much more impressive b/c of the drivetrain it's going through. And the "thats not what it's about" meant thats it's not about dyno numbers but track times.
Justin
<small>[ May 09, 2002, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: Jsears8 ]</small>
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<small>[ May 09, 2002, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: Jsears8 ]</small>
05-09-2002, 07:28 PM
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Re: New dyno results! 410rwhp/389rwtq - stock heads! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>Jason has a ringer car. No matter what he puts in it it runs well at the track. For example he ran 11.4 with cam only, then 11.1 with your bad-*** "solid cam" motor. He'd probably run 11.6 with a decent stock motor, lol. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL Terry! I guess I'll take that as a compliment. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> However, I think if someone duplicated my setup exactly, the times would be fairly close. You just cannot worry about breaking stuff at the track and drive the crap out of it, especially with a 6-speed.
If I ever do get another LS1, I'm buying a 12-bolt and some slicks and running the car bone stock to see what it will run. I know I could get it to run low 12s in the right air.
<small>[ May 09, 2002, 11:34 PM: Message edited by: Jason99T/A ]</small>
<strong>Jason has a ringer car. No matter what he puts in it it runs well at the track. For example he ran 11.4 with cam only, then 11.1 with your bad-*** "solid cam" motor. He'd probably run 11.6 with a decent stock motor, lol. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL Terry! I guess I'll take that as a compliment. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> However, I think if someone duplicated my setup exactly, the times would be fairly close. You just cannot worry about breaking stuff at the track and drive the crap out of it, especially with a 6-speed.
If I ever do get another LS1, I'm buying a 12-bolt and some slicks and running the car bone stock to see what it will run. I know I could get it to run low 12s in the right air.
<small>[ May 09, 2002, 11:34 PM: Message edited by: Jason99T/A ]</small>
05-09-2002, 11:46 PM
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Re: New dyno results! 410rwhp/389rwtq - stock heads! You defintely know you have a cam in the car while sitting at a stop light. The shifter shakes some,etc. However, all of my other cams did this. The cam does lope quite a bit harder, but the inside vibrations,etc have not really changed much. If you have access to LS1-edit, then none of this should be much of a concern as you can bump your idle to where you feel comfortable.
The only downsides so far is gas mileage, but that is a personal problem. LOL The car is at WOT quite a bit. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> The only other "downside" would be piston to valve clearance if you do decide to add a set of ported heads. However, this is pure speculation as we have not checked it as of yet. We will be checking this out in a few days and will post the results.
<small>[ May 09, 2002, 11:47 PM: Message edited by: Jason99T/A ]</small>
The only downsides so far is gas mileage, but that is a personal problem. LOL The car is at WOT quite a bit. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> The only other "downside" would be piston to valve clearance if you do decide to add a set of ported heads. However, this is pure speculation as we have not checked it as of yet. We will be checking this out in a few days and will post the results.
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Re: New dyno results! 410rwhp/389rwtq - stock heads! Jason has a ringer car. No matter what he puts in it it runs well at the track. For example he ran 11.4 with cam only, then 11.1 with your bad-*** "solid cam" motor. He'd probably run 11.6 with a decent stock motor, lol. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: New dyno results! 410rwhp/389rwtq - stock heads! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>Paul, I really want this cam. How would it idle, I have LS1Edit I can tune with, if I set it to the proper idle? I want this for my C5 and don't want the car to shake and vibrate my hand off of the shifter. Thanks man.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The idle is really not too bad at all. With about a 950rpm idle it really wouldn't be bad. It's a little rougher then the TR224 cam but not much. Just do it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I'll have some ready to go by mid next week.
Paul
<strong>Paul, I really want this cam. How would it idle, I have LS1Edit I can tune with, if I set it to the proper idle? I want this for my C5 and don't want the car to shake and vibrate my hand off of the shifter. Thanks man.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The idle is really not too bad at all. With about a 950rpm idle it really wouldn't be bad. It's a little rougher then the TR224 cam but not much. Just do it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I'll have some ready to go by mid next week.
Paul
