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05-23-2002, 04:24 AM

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CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

We finished dynoing the car tonight and there is still some final tweaks to be done on it. I feel that the 3 muffler Borla system on it is probably to restrictive for this set up and we are going to redyno after a new exhaust gets bolted on in the morning.

Here is a link to the dyno graph ----> http://www.cartek.net/images/rom458.jpg

A big thank you to Roy, Rich, Ray and Dave for pulling together to get this done and ready for the challenge.

Julio

05-23-2002, 04:58 AM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

heads and cam im assuming? solid roller maybe? any info gonna be disclosed here??? lol im sure its late your you guys are really tired <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

05-23-2002, 11:16 AM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Nickn20:
heads and cam im assuming? solid roller maybe? any info gonna be disclosed here??? lol im sure its late your you guys are really tired <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Yes, heads and cam and other bolt ons on a stock 346 CID (NA), hydraulic roller.

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05-23-2002, 11:18 AM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

Lets get some track numbers... 460 RWHP should be 10s in the BAG!!!

05-23-2002, 01:41 PM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

How about taking that thing to the track and posting some ET results..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

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05-23-2002, 01:50 PM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

Nice numbers, but completely meaningless if we don't know the specifics of what went into the car. How about some "more detailed" information?

What does a package consist of?
What does the package cost?

Give us info!

05-23-2002, 05:32 PM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Damian:
How about taking that thing to the track and posting some ET results..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Josh<hr /></blockquote>Yeah, I too would like to see some real track numbers....it seems that we are getting a lot of great dyno numbers from some people but with no track results to solidify those dyno results....but in any case....nice numbers!

Joe

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

wow.. now i can see why my car wasnt finished in time... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

05-23-2002, 07:15 PM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

My Cartek "X" package dynoed 426 with 4.10's in a 6 spd C5
I have run a best of 11.23@ 121.95 with a 1.701 60'. I have a coupe that weighs over 3500 lbs. with me in it. Oh, it also has 73,000 miles on it

There are a few others with the same package in lighter hardtops running quicker. 11.07 and 11.10 I believe

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05-23-2002, 10:31 PM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

Are you running the LS6 or LS1 heads?

Nice <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Duntov097:
My Cartek "X" package dynoed 426 with 4.10's in a 6 spd C5
I have run a best of 11.23@ 121.95 with a 1.701 60'. I have a coupe that weighs over 3500 lbs. with me in it. Oh, it also has 73,000 miles on it

There are a few others with the same package in lighter hardtops running quicker. 11.07 and 11.10 I believe

Bob<hr /></blockquote>

05-24-2002, 12:44 AM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

No Way!!!! What gears? 2.73's?

05-24-2002, 12:48 AM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

Looking at that dyno and comparing it to my old setup with a vacuum leak/rocker arms hitting retainers/cam only tuning. My car was making more horsepower all the way up to 5200rpm. That tells me you are using a 226 and above cam and are getting pretty good with ls1edit. Actually I think you are probably running a 230 cam..

05-24-2002, 01:18 PM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

Julio,
I understand the "secret squirrel" stuff, but you can still give us the basics of what went into the car. (i.e. cam, stage 2 heads, etc.) You don't have to divulge the exact camshaft spec's and that stuff. Just give us the basic information.
Thanks,
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05-24-2002, 01:28 PM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

Like JS's LS6 Cartech race package that peaks at 6800rpm and runs 11.18? with a 4.56 gears, 28" slicks, and a 4500rpm stall? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

What was the correction factor on the dyno runs?

05-24-2002, 01:52 PM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

I stand corrected... That is making killer horsepower.. First time I ever heard anyone admit they used 3.42's on a dyno pull recently..

05-24-2002, 07:33 PM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

As usual Terryble is trying to stir the pot by knocking my setup and saying Carteks dyno is not accurate.

First off Terryble my setup peaks at 6600
JUST LIKE YOURS DOES.

I run a 4.56 w/a 28in tire
WHICH IS EXACTLY LIKE YOUR 4.10/26in

I run a 280lb HEAVIER car than u
Mine 3600
Yours 3320

I run a 4600 stall
U RUN A 4400 STALL.

My car has run a BEST of 11.14@122 on 26in ET STREETS/4.10's TERRYBLE at a RW of 3460lbs.Your slightly mistaken.

Lastly one of your close friends out in Cali email me and said u have the desire to be a women?I told them that was impossibe,U already had a vagina.

What TERRYBLE fails to tell u is 3 different cars running the Cartek X H/C packages dynoed at independant shops and were off less than 3RWHP from what Julio saw.By the way these shops have no vested interest in Cartek.

Terry how many of MMS's Corvettes hold and H/C records here on LS1 Tech.Oh yea thats right NONE.

JS
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[ May 24, 2002, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: JS ]

05-24-2002, 08:01 PM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

Ah so that's what the ole R heads are puttin out.

nice numbers bro!

05-24-2002, 08:44 PM

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

In defense of records.. MMS claimed long time ago they dyno'd over 450rwhp in a 346ci and we all said <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> Now that everyone is doing it we see no problem with this? Next year we will have the same companies putting out 480rwhp out of a 346 with a Hyd cam.... Cartek is going to have the Z3 cam and MMS is going to have the 229v8 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

I am the owner of that beast <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> We shall see what it runs tomorrow <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

<img src="http://temp.corvetteforum.net/members/tempsites/montessgirl//z.jpg" alt=" - " />

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Re: CARTEK "Z" package makes 458 RWHP and 408 RWTQ.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Fireball:
Lets get some track numbers... 460 RWHP should be 10s in the BAG!!!<hr /></blockquote>Fireball,he will be at the Cartek Corvette Challenge this Saturday at E-Town, it should be a bit warm and it's his first time out, maybe low 11s this week end. That's faster than some strokers.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by VINCE:
No Way!!!! What gears? 2.73's?<hr /></blockquote>Vince, that was with 3.42s and with 4.10s it made 451 RWHP.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by VINCE:
Looking at that dyno and comparing it to my old setup with a vacuum leak/rocker arms hitting retainers/cam only tuning. My car was making more horsepower all the way up to 5200rpm. That tells me you are using a 226 and above cam and are getting pretty good with ls1edit. Actually I think you are probably running a 230 cam..<hr /></blockquote>It's not a radical set up, the car idles at 850 and makes peak power at 6,200-6,300 rpm. Here is a link to how it drives according to the customer--->http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=306498

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Damian:
How about taking that thing to the track and posting some ET results.....

Josh<hr /></blockquote>Yes he is, read above.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Reckless:
Nice numbers, but completely meaningless if we don't know the specifics of what went into the car. How about some "more detailed" information?

What does a package consist of?
What does the package cost?

Give us info!<hr /></blockquote>Thanks, but to be frank with you allot of time and money went into developing this package and we want to maintain our edge. It's like going to a NASCAR team and asking them what their latest developments are, more than likely you wont get an answer. If you contact Dave at the 908-317-4496 he can give you some details.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by TITAN:
Yeah, I too would like to see some real track numbers....it seems that we are getting a lot of great dyno numbers from some people but with no track results to solidify those dyno results....but in any case....nice numbers!

Joe<hr /></blockquote>Thanks Joe, with our "X" package that makes less power than our "Z", we have 3 customers C5-PIG, Brent, Duntov and with M6 C5s that have run 11.07 to 11.23 with 122 to 125.6 MPH on stock weight C5s (most Vette owners don't gut their cars for drag racing)

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by nysbadmk8:
wow.. now i can see why my car wasnt finished in time...<hr /></blockquote>What car is that? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Duntov097:
My Cartek "X" package dynoed 426 with 4.10's in a 6 spd C5
I have run a best of 11.23@ 121.95 with a 1.701 60'. I have a coupe that weighs over 3500 lbs. with me in it. Oh, it also has 73,000 miles on it

There are a few others with the same package in lighter hardtops running quicker. 11.07 and 11.10 I believe

Bob <hr /></blockquote>See you at the Challenge Bob.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Brownie:
Are you running the LS6 or LS1 heads?

Nice <hr /></blockquote>I forgot, but I know they are aluminum. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Thanks for all the interest and props.

Julio

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