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Well for my new motor I think I am going solid roller, I have a few questions.
What is your cam specs? (if you dont mind)
What did you dyno? (And what is your displacment)
What rockers?
How offten do you have to adjust them?
Is there any more wear then with a hydro?
Sean
What is your cam specs? (if you dont mind)
What did you dyno? (And what is your displacment)
What rockers?
How offten do you have to adjust them?
Is there any more wear then with a hydro?
Sean
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Re: Solid roller people with in
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by masmith:
<strong>Well for my new motor I think I am going solid roller, I have a few questions.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not really qualified to answer all of these questions, as I'm still waiting on my new motor, but I did have a solid roller for about a day before a defective wristpin screwed some stuff up...
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>What is your cam specs? (if you dont mind)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm keeping that under wraps for now, but it is fairly big by most standards <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>What rockers?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">T&D shaft rockers and Comp 1.55" springs.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>How offten do you have to adjust them?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Most folks find that after initial run in, you'll only have to adjust the valve lash every 5000-7000 miles. It would be a good idea to check them a little more often, like at every oil change.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>Is there any more wear then with a hydro?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Depending on how radical of a cam you go with, the valvesprings will wear faster due to the high lift associated with most solid roller setups. Other than that, I wouldn't expect any other valvetrain components to last a shorter time.
There's a fairly large intial setup cost for a solid roller setup, but it can be worthwhile, depending on what you're looking to achieve. A solid roller usually has better driveability due to the highly accelerated cam lobes, which effectively reduces overlap.
<strong>Well for my new motor I think I am going solid roller, I have a few questions.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not really qualified to answer all of these questions, as I'm still waiting on my new motor, but I did have a solid roller for about a day before a defective wristpin screwed some stuff up...
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>What is your cam specs? (if you dont mind)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm keeping that under wraps for now, but it is fairly big by most standards <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>What rockers?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">T&D shaft rockers and Comp 1.55" springs.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>How offten do you have to adjust them?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Most folks find that after initial run in, you'll only have to adjust the valve lash every 5000-7000 miles. It would be a good idea to check them a little more often, like at every oil change.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>Is there any more wear then with a hydro?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Depending on how radical of a cam you go with, the valvesprings will wear faster due to the high lift associated with most solid roller setups. Other than that, I wouldn't expect any other valvetrain components to last a shorter time.
There's a fairly large intial setup cost for a solid roller setup, but it can be worthwhile, depending on what you're looking to achieve. A solid roller usually has better driveability due to the highly accelerated cam lobes, which effectively reduces overlap.
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Re: Solid roller people with in
It all depends on how radical you want to go... With a big cid engine like a 422, you can still run a "smallish" cam and make great power without sacrificing any driveability, or you can run a bigger cam and make more power. It just depends on what kind of rpms you plan on turning and what you're willing to live with. Your engine builder would probably be the best one to recommend a camshaft, as he should be familiar with the flow characteristics of the heads.
Just look at the awesome power that Nineball's 434cid MTI powerplant is putting out with a smallish (for that kind of displacement) hydraulic cam...
Just look at the awesome power that Nineball's 434cid MTI powerplant is putting out with a smallish (for that kind of displacement) hydraulic cam...
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GeorgeC pretty much summed it up.
Ive been using solid rollers in my car and customer's LS1's for almost 2 years now.If you need any other info or recommendations,e-mail me.
Ive been using solid rollers in my car and customer's LS1's for almost 2 years now.If you need any other info or recommendations,e-mail me.
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5000 miles? That's every 2 months at most! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
I was just about to ask about the adjustment interval myself... I guess I'll stick with hydraulic rollers. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I was just about to ask about the adjustment interval myself... I guess I'll stick with hydraulic rollers. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: Solid roller people with in
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by GTS SS:
<strong>Here's mine,
236/241 .680/.680 112 LS
456 rwhp / 418 rwtq
346 CI
T&D Rockers 1.7 ratio
Adjustment & Wear? What George said.
Gordon</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Gordon, do you have a dyno sheet you could post? I would like to see how the power curve looks on your motor.
Justin
<strong>Here's mine,
236/241 .680/.680 112 LS
456 rwhp / 418 rwtq
346 CI
T&D Rockers 1.7 ratio
Adjustment & Wear? What George said.
Gordon</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Gordon, do you have a dyno sheet you could post? I would like to see how the power curve looks on your motor.
Justin
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Gordon,
WOW!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Awesome numbers! Would you mind either emailing me or sending me a PM on what your setup cost you? Also, which tuner did you go with for these mods?
I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
TJ
WOW!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Awesome numbers! Would you mind either emailing me or sending me a PM on what your setup cost you? Also, which tuner did you go with for these mods?
I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
TJ