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Old 06-08-2002, 08:50 PM
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Default GM Hot cam v.s. other lower lift cams for a street machine

A few ?? First off, dyno #'s are not a major issue with me. I know there are cams that make much higher #'s than the two I am considering, which are the Hot cam and the Comp 218/224. I want a cam that will give me good mid/high range power for the average street race. Something that will hit hard from a roll, and pull hard till redline. I want it to be reliable (within reason)and not stress the valvetrain. Thus, I need a lower lift. The bolt ons that are not in my sig I will eventually get, which include 3.73's. I also plan to get a basic port/polish job from a shop in town for a few hundred $$, and I will have LS1Edit before the cam install, so idle issues should be okay with my A4. I also plan to spray. I'm a budget racer type, so I'm leaning toward the Hot cam kit. I may be able to get a kit new next week for $350. Would the Comp 218 give enough extra power (if any) to justify the extra $300 or so? Is there another low lift cam (under 540) that I may want to look at? I know plenty of you guys totally hate the Hot cam, but take my goals into consideration before you slam it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Okay for how the hot cam is going to idle why not get a bigger cam with more lift.B1,T1,C1,C2Thunders 224/224 I mean there are a lot better choices that will give you more power with better idle and streetability.
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Okay, lol. I know there are cams that make better power. Idle is a non issue since the pcm will be reprogrammed. Like I said before, I do not want a cam with more lift. If I just wanted the latest monster cam that dynos high I'd get a TR reverse split or a G5 or something. I don't want to take my car on a cross country trip and be paranoid about breaking a valve spring in the middle of nowhere. And, until these springs that have come out in the last few months have been ran much longer for me to see how reliable they are, I want a lower lift cam. Both the cams I'm looking at can make good power. As far as dyno #'s, what did 99TAGirl get with the 218/S1 heads? 420? I just want to compare the two cams, and see if there is another "UNDER 540" that I should look at.
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I'm very happy with mine. It performs extremely well in all the situations you mentioned. I'm not convinced that just having more lift gives you much extra.
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I don't know about the nitrous, and what cam will be better for it. But dont let a couple bashers, low dyno's fool you about the hocam. Its not a small cam! Midrange is strong. Torq curve is awsome. Pulls Hard to 6400 according to my dyno. And at the track in a mod-mod track-track situation i've out ran BOTH the "other" cammed cars i raced. Might be driver (probly) but ill put it this way. I was out MPH'ing them also. (still cold be driver with m6)
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You sound exactly like me when i was trying to decide which cam. I wanted one that sounded good, had a definite SOTP improvement, and reliability. The HOTCAM worked for me! I don't have tuning so i had to drill the TB hole a little bigger to get rid of some minor surging, other than that it feels great. I have stock heads so i can't see spending the extra money for a bigger cam only to end up with 5 or 10 more horsepower.
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Yeah, most guys who run the hot cam and have it tuned good say it pulls hard from midrange up. That is what I want. X cam with .580 lift may dyno 10-15hp more, but will it really make a difference on the street? I don't think so. I will wait to go overkill when my car is paid off and I get a big cube motor (and a daily driver). I already know I want a cam with a lower lift. I want to find out how Comp 218/224 compares, or another similar cam. But the hot cam is still sounding good for what I want.
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You'll be sorry if you get the hotcam. I just put the Thunder 224-112 in and it peaks at 6100rpm. If you have new springs and pushrods then you shift at 6400 you'll never break a spring if you use the 918's. The cam is much tamer than I thought and is perfect for the stall in your sig.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by OBSSSD:
<strong>You'll be sorry if you get the hotcam. I just put the Thunder 224-112 in and it peaks at 6100rpm. If you have new springs and pushrods then you shift at 6400 you'll never break a spring if you use the 918's. The cam is much tamer than I thought and is perfect for the stall in your sig.

I'm in Lewisville if you want to check my car out.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">When I was looking at higher lift cams, the TR224 and B1 were on the top of my list. I've heard the 918's are strong springs, but how many miles do some of you guys have on them? And, I've seen the Comp 218/224 make as much power as the TR224, and the hot cam come very close. BTW, I need to change my location. I'm born and raised in D/FW, but living in S.C. (Army) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

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Default Re: GM Hot cam v.s. other lower lift cams for a street machine

I think reliablity is an issue for you as it is for me.
That was one major reason for me to choose the
hotcam with ( ls6 springs ). I put the cam in at
4200 miles and I have 18,000 now with approx
20 passes, and several long road trips ( long = 500 + miles one way ).
My setup includes the SLP long tubes which complement the hotcam very nicely.. yes there
are wilder cams out there that make more power
but as stated before, reliablity of the entire setup
is a major factor for me.
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