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Old 06-13-2002, 07:59 AM
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Default So how high can I safely spin a stock short block?

I’m really trying to make the stock short block last for a nice long time, so I’m wondering just how high I can set my shift points up for without drastically reducing engine life. I’d like to shift at 6400/6500, but I’m at about 6250 right now. Just wondering if 64/6500 is high enough to start really beating up on the short block.

If it makes any difference, I’ve got an ARE pump and I run synthetic oil.

So am I looking at drastically reduced engine life shifting at or about 6500?
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Default Re: So how high can I safely spin a stock short block?

you should be ok up to 6600 shift points with great longegevity. Just run a 10W30 oil or thicker to help out the bearings <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> BTW do you have upgraded valvesprings...if not don't go past 6400

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Default Re: So how high can I safely spin a stock short block?

Yeah, I’ve got Comp 26918s with 772 retainers, hardened push rods. I’m already using a 10W30 synthetic oil, so it sounds like I should be OK. I don’t think I’m getting max benefit out of my cam shifting at 6250/6300, so as long as I’m ok up to 6500 or so that’s great <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Any more opnions? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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13,000 miles and no problems so far. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Default Re: So how high can I safely spin a stock short block?

The formula has seen 7000rpm quite often..it's hit 6600rpm regularly over the last 18k miles.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>13,000 miles and no problems so far. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That’s good to hear...but since I’m prone to bad luck I think I’ll keep it under 6600 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Not to mention I doubt my cam with stock heads will make much power at 7200...
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Default Re: So how high can I safely spin a stock short block?

Yea, I've smacked the 7000rpm limiter a lot...sounds really loud especially w/the cutout open... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

I usually shift at 6500, I need to redyno to see where I really peak at...
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Default Re: So how high can I safely spin a stock short block?

I think 6500 rpms is fine.

Some of the car that were spun to 6700-7000 in 1998-2001 have since need a rebuild, due to stretched rod belts, spinning bearings, and worn internals.
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Default Re: So how high can I safely spin a stock short block?

Is it safe to shift at 6600 RPM's with rev limiters set at 6800?
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Default Re: So how high can I safely spin a stock short block?

Isn't the weak point the rod bolts? That is my main concern with spinning the motor to 6500-6600. It might just be a crap shoot though.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Brownie:
<strong>Isn't the weak point the rod bolts? That is my main concern with spinning the motor to 6500-6600. It might just be a crap shoot though.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is what I’m wondering. I’d rather give up the extra 1mph of trap speed or whatever and shift at 6300 if it’s going to wear anything quickly otherwise...
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Default Re: So how high can I safely spin a stock short block?

7200rpm or so is safe.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>7200rpm or so is safe.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">With stock bolts!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Are you sure?




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