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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 10:25 PM
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ok im getting a Xtreme 224 .563 114 cam and a Katech oil pump. I was wondering do i need to do the timing chain or not?

i have 37k on my 98. What should I do? Can i just get a new chain or what? How much is just the chain gonna run if that would work, and who has it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

im on a budget here and if i really dont need it ill get it this fall. My cuz does all of my work so i get VERY good install prices <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> so i can do it later...
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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bahh. do the install yourself farmboy.. That's half the fun of it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Old Jun 22, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 98blackSS:
<strong>bahh. do the install yourself farmboy.. That's half the fun of it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ill be assisting, i just want lift access <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>Get the Katech (JWIS) chain from Katech for $110 + shipping. Best chain out there.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thats just the chain right? and it will hook right up to where the stock one went right?
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 01:56 PM
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Yes, same size as stock. Should be considered a minimum upgrade for Cam installs.

FWIW, I hear aftermarket springs and downshifting contributes to most stock chain breakages. I forget the reason why with the springs.
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 02:40 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MelloYellow:
<strong>Yes, same size as stock. Should be considered a minimum upgrade for Cam installs.

FWIW, I hear aftermarket springs and downshifting contributes to most stock chain breakages. I forget the reason why with the springs.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">is this assumeing that you're putting the car in gear releasing the clutch, instead of putting it in gear and heal-toe shifting? And how can you prevent it? Just the chain?
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Old Jun 23, 2002 | 03:30 PM
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IMO, the Rollmaster double roller is the *best* set-up available for the LS1. Hard to believe any single chain can be stronger, less prone to stretching (more reliable for timing), or more resistant to harmonics than twins.

And, the Rollmaster is inexpensive, too.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 12:01 AM
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Get an aftermarket chain. My 10K mile change broke after 3K miles with stage II heads and cam.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 12:12 AM
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Get the Katech (JWIS) chain from Katech for $110 + shipping. Best chain out there.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 12:16 AM
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is it just a replacement for the stock one??! do you need further job for it other that installation??
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 06:57 AM
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I have plans to install a cam shortly also, still need to zero in on a specific cam, but does anyone know where to order one of the double set chains, or the rollermaster? Thanks.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 09:35 AM
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SLPs double chain is the rollmaster <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 11:41 AM
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ARE sells the Rollmaster, too. For less than SLP.
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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NVE THIS:
<strong>I have plans to install a cam shortly also, still need to zero in on a specific cam, but does anyone know where to order one of the double set chains, or the rollermaster? Thanks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">check your PM <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 09:49 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>Get the Katech (JWIS) chain from Katech for $110 + shipping. Best chain out there.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">is it a double chain?? does it come in complete set! I looked at their website and didn't find it!
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by The Emperor Of Darkness:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>Get the Katech (JWIS) chain from Katech for $110 + shipping. Best chain out there.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">is it a double chain?? does it come in complete set! I looked at their website and didn't find it!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i dont think its a double chain?? anyone else know for sure? I may go with the rollmaster now cause i see ls1speed sells that also for 159.. 40 bucks more and i know she wont break <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 09:56 AM
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Do any of these kits have timing gears??? Or are they just the timing chains? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 01:15 PM
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Is this a necessity for running mid high 11's?

If so, I am going to look into getting one this week.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 01:18 PM
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Not a necessity. It's more like "insurance" for those of us who are tired of breaking t-chains...
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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 12:55 AM
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Katek is only a single chain, but the rollmaster is a double chain with the gears.....
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