Pulled Hot Cam out
07-02-2002, 10:03 PM
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Pulled Hot Cam out and put the stocker back in....rock solid gain all around...i went to getting beat by a bolt on car to being even with a bolt on car, which is where i should be! <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
My only guess is that the hot cam is ground wrong... don't think it is worth the money to find out and i do not know anyone with a cam doctor. or the car just really hated the hotcam...
it still burns oil..so it seems that the damage is already done, but the power is back and feels stronger than ever.
just so you know, alittle background. i installed the gm hot cam and mac headers on a car with a couplke of bolt ons.... i saw no gain at all at the track...identical mph...but the car never feel "normal"
now it is a bolt on car with mac headers...will find out the "real" gains this weekend for sure at the track.
My only guess is that the hot cam is ground wrong... don't think it is worth the money to find out and i do not know anyone with a cam doctor. or the car just really hated the hotcam...
it still burns oil..so it seems that the damage is already done, but the power is back and feels stronger than ever.
just so you know, alittle background. i installed the gm hot cam and mac headers on a car with a couplke of bolt ons.... i saw no gain at all at the track...identical mph...but the car never feel "normal"
now it is a bolt on car with mac headers...will find out the "real" gains this weekend for sure at the track.
07-03-2002, 12:22 AM
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Re: Pulled Hot Cam out </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 6-SpeedZ:
<strong>I assume youve never even touched the tuning?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The car should still pick up even without tuning.We wont ever know what was wrong because he doesnt want to spend the money to find out which I dont blame him for.Its time to move on to something different now.
<strong>I assume youve never even touched the tuning?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The car should still pick up even without tuning.We wont ever know what was wrong because he doesnt want to spend the money to find out which I dont blame him for.Its time to move on to something different now.
07-03-2002, 12:36 AM
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Re: Pulled Hot Cam out I'm going to check into getting it on a cam doctor just to see what is up with it. just depends on how much it will cost.
i fought with the hot cam for so long that i am happy it is out, the car feels very good now, it hasn't in a long time. as for tuning, Wizkid and i tried everything and according to ATAP, the car was running to the best of the computer's abilties with the help of a MAFT. The power was just not there, amazingly it never showed any kind of problems or misfires while running.
I will consider another cam in the future, i am really hoping that this particular cam was just defective. Of course that will be after i re-ring it, for what ever reason. with the cam in it, the rings started pulling oil thru them.... and it seems the damamge is already done...
I pulled the cam and went back to "stock" settings and saw a real gain! Something was not right with the Hot Cam. I will get with Eric again and retune for the headers only, and hopefully see even more of a gain.
the biggest problem i had with the hotcam other than smoking was the fact that no matter what i did...mod and tuning wise, the car never picked up from it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
pull the cam and put the stocker in and it was a night and day difference! I just wish that i would have done it sooner, alot of energy was spent on trying to make the cam work, THanks to all of those who helped. It really tried my witts <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
i fought with the hot cam for so long that i am happy it is out, the car feels very good now, it hasn't in a long time. as for tuning, Wizkid and i tried everything and according to ATAP, the car was running to the best of the computer's abilties with the help of a MAFT. The power was just not there, amazingly it never showed any kind of problems or misfires while running.
I will consider another cam in the future, i am really hoping that this particular cam was just defective. Of course that will be after i re-ring it, for what ever reason. with the cam in it, the rings started pulling oil thru them.... and it seems the damamge is already done...
I pulled the cam and went back to "stock" settings and saw a real gain! Something was not right with the Hot Cam. I will get with Eric again and retune for the headers only, and hopefully see even more of a gain.
the biggest problem i had with the hotcam other than smoking was the fact that no matter what i did...mod and tuning wise, the car never picked up from it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
pull the cam and put the stocker in and it was a night and day difference! I just wish that i would have done it sooner, alot of energy was spent on trying to make the cam work, THanks to all of those who helped. It really tried my witts <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
07-03-2002, 04:39 AM
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Re: Pulled Hot Cam out Yep, something definitely was not right. Mine feels very strong with the HC. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
07-03-2002, 11:27 AM
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Re: Pulled Hot Cam out My Hotcam made a night and day difference...I have no tuning and it feels strong...maybee something was a little bit off during your install...never know
07-03-2002, 11:32 AM
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Re: Pulled Hot Cam out I'm certain it was not the install, matter of fact,a mnth after the install, i pulled it all down to recheck everything b/c i felt as tho something was wrong <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
i came very close to putting the stocker back in when i realized every detail of the install was correct. I decided not to and start to see alternatives for a cure to my problems. i never did find that cure <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" />
i came very close to putting the stocker back in when i realized every detail of the install was correct. I decided not to and start to see alternatives for a cure to my problems. i never did find that cure <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" />
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07-03-2002, 11:40 AM
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Re: Pulled Hot Cam out i find this to be very weird. now i did switch out my hotcam to another cam (the raging cam!) but i went from 314 RWHP (yea my car was a slug with bolt-ons) to a very impressive 364 RWHP with the only addition of the hotcam and dynatech headers! these were the only changes. this was on stock tuning as well! the same dyno with identical correctin factors. i believe a near 50 RWHP gain is damn good for the two cheapo mods. i did not even touch the intake either. just wanted to let you know. with the 4.10 gears the car really screamed up top. i like it, but i know there are other better cams out there. the idle was tuff to live with as well.
