242/244 592/595 108LSA? Opinions?
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Looking for very aggressive idle and good power between 3000-6400 max. 3.23's, full exhaust, Yank SS4000. This is what Comp spec'd me. Looking for a budget cam package and would like to stay with 918's. Opinions or better options?
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Too much cam for your gears. If you're going to spend all the money on a cam install, why not put a set of 3.73's in as well? Your car will be a pooch under 4000 RPM with that cam. Better plan on revving it to 7K to make power. Hell, a 224/224 cam will pull to 6400RPM. People keep overcamming their engines. You shouldn't get caught up in the "bigger is better" cam syndrome. Don't worry about using comp 918's, you can get Patriot golds with Ti retainers, locks, and spring seats for $255. If it were my car, I'd install a Comp XFI lobed cam of about 230/236 @.050 .612/.615 lift on a 108+0 LSA. You won't have to spin it as high and you'll have better torque down low, but it's still going to be down on power because you have stock compression. The cam they gave you needs at least 11.5:1 SCR to work.
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how about something like a 228/232,.588/.592 xer lobes on a 110 +2 or so.that seems to be a strong performer and 918 springs should last quite awhile with it.hit up patrick g or pred and see what they have to say,they both are very knowledgeable and helpful.
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that cam would have a NASTY Idle at 27* of overlap at .050" compared to a Trex with 25*. not sure where it would make power to though pretty high up id say a quite a it higher than 6400 for sure. peak above that and you would want to shift around 7k ish i would think. but i am no expert though that is for sure
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230/230 .592/592 110LSA +4 is an absolute no brainer for a cam-only application with an automatic. It will make big power everywhere. The +4 is very important in a cam-only application as it gets the dynamic compression higher which will really boost your mid-range torque...just the ticket for launching hard against the converter.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
230/230 .592/592 110LSA +4 is an absolute no brainer for a cam-only application with an automatic. It will make big power everywhere. The +4 is very important in a cam-only application as it gets the dynamic compression higher which will really boost your mid-range torque...just the ticket for launching hard against the converter.
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I was talkin to ryan earlier. We both pretty much aggreed that you can make any of these big cams sound choppy/lopey ben. It really comes down to where you want your power. Overlap is gonna play some in the idle. The lower the LSA the harder the lope. the more duration the harder the lope. But too much duration, like 242/244 the car is going to be a nightmare around town, or antying but WOT.
Ryan said you are wanting to stay with 918's because of price. Look at Patroit Golds, for 255. That is going to give you a better lobe, XER wtih the duration that you would like a little better.
http://www.patriot-performance.com/w...07473&DID=1225.
Ryan said you are wanting to stay with 918's because of price. Look at Patroit Golds, for 255. That is going to give you a better lobe, XER wtih the duration that you would like a little better.
http://www.patriot-performance.com/w...07473&DID=1225.
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He didnt know you could get the patroits at such a good price. You still cant run lsk lobes on these springs. But you can run XER up to .650 lift. Which is where I think you need to be looking. Im sure down the road you are going to want to bolt on a set of heads. So get a cam that is gonna take advantage of heads.
Im still liking the 233/239 for your car. Ill do a little more research today and see if I cant find some diff cams that are off the shelf.
Im still liking the 233/239 for your car. Ill do a little more research today and see if I cant find some diff cams that are off the shelf.
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[QUOTE]Would this have a nasty idle.....figure if I'm spending the money I might as well get exactly what I want . I want choppy/lopey as hell.[QUOTE]
degrees overlap is a big player here, and it can be easily figured:
take the average of your two durations
take double your LSA
and find the difference
ex: on your first cam, 242 + 244= 486 divide by 2 to get avg. = 243
LSA= 108 , double that, so 216
then just take the difference of 243 and 216 = 27* overlap of your cam, which is WAY overdoing it, stay <18* at least
degrees overlap is a big player here, and it can be easily figured:
take the average of your two durations
take double your LSA
and find the difference
ex: on your first cam, 242 + 244= 486 divide by 2 to get avg. = 243
LSA= 108 , double that, so 216
then just take the difference of 243 and 216 = 27* overlap of your cam, which is WAY overdoing it, stay <18* at least