Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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No, it's not my car...yet. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> We had a 2001 six-speed f-body come in last week for a cam swap. The car had Hooker longtube headers, an underdrive crank pulley, a lid, and true dual exhaust, and it put down 317 RWHP. After the addition of the G5 cam package and tuning, the car put down 390 RWHP and 378 RWTQ! This was even on drag radials with 15 psi in them. There were NOT any dyno tricks (i.e. short belt, over-inflated rear tires, lightweight wheels, etc.). I have a dyno sheet to post up, but I forgot the disk at work. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> I'll have it up tomorrow. I plan on swapping out to the same cam in the next few weeks, so we'll see how much quicker I can go with it in.

Give me a call at the store if any of you have any questions.

Trevor - LGM

<small>[ July 15, 2002, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: Trevor D ]</small>

TAMUz06

I hope to give you an updated G5 stock headed number over 410 within the next month <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

And where the hell have I been, when did you start working there??

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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awesome Jim! 410 RWHP is easily within your reach.

Man, you must be out of the loop. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> I started there today.

Elite_Hot_Rod

Hey Trevor,

Long time man. Good to see you are gainfully employed. How much do you want for that old XE-R cam of yours when it comes out? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Do me a favor and ask Lou if the LG DSL will fit my car, you know my set up. I bough 1 sometime back but just looking at it looks to me like it won't fit. TIA,

Mark

<small>[ July 15, 2002, 11:27 PM: Message edited by: Elite_Hot_Rod ]</small>

6-SpeedZ

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Dont mean to **** on anyones parade here, but 317 for the mods you described is VERY weak, especially for an 01. That car WITHOUT the headers, should have been at least around 320 to 330 easy, or am I missing something?

<small>[ July 16, 2002, 12:26 AM: Message edited by: 6-SpeedZ ]</small>

verbs

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 6-SpeedZ:
<strong>Dont mean to **** on anyones parade here, but 317 for the mods you described is VERY weak, especially for an 01. That car WITHOUT the headers, should have been at least around 320 to 330 easy, or am I missing something?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No I completely agree with you on that one. Longtubes, pulleys, lid, ls6 intake (it's a 2001 car) and true dual exhaust only putting down 317rwhp???

Sounds like a healthy portion of the cam gain was due to tuning. That car must have had some serious issues!!!

That car should have been putting down at least 340rwhp to as much as 350rwhp before tuning IMO. Something was very wrong with that car.

With that exact setup I was putting down 357rwhp 6 mo. ago...and that was through 4.10 gears!!!

The aftermath of the cam rocks though!!! Chalk up another kick *** car w/ the G5 cam <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

AlonzoVersion 1.0

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 6-SpeedZ:
<strong>Dont mean to **** on anyones parade here, but 317 for the mods you described is VERY weak, especially for an 01. That car WITHOUT the headers, should have been at least around 320 to 330 easy, or am I missing something?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I totally agree however still great numbers with a cam swap and tuning.

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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There's no doubt about it that the tuning helped. I don't want you guys to think that I'm implying that the car saw 73 RWHP from just a cam! The cam is very good, but it's not magical! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Some cars are better or worse off than others when it comes to the stock tuning and mods like headers. After adding headers and the true duals, I'm sure the stock tuning was not happy. My setup has been tuned by Ed Wright, so the tuning should not be in question when we dyno my setup now vs. when the G5 is in.

Mark - It's funny you mention this because I was asking the same question yesterday. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Both Lou and Louis are gone this week, but I will get with them next week about the driveshaft loop. I wouldn't mind trying one out myself. As for the 224 XE-R, one of my friends has first right of refusal on it. I doubt you'll gain anything since you already have the TR 224/224 on the same 112 LSA. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ July 16, 2002, 06:45 AM: Message edited by: Trevor D ]</small>

JC

This is the second time that the G5 didn't impress me.

Nine Ball

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390 rwhp with stock heads and underinflated tires doesn't impress you?

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

Fulton 1

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is the second time that the G5 didn't impress me. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Looks pretty impressive to me through stock heads...

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JC:
<strong>This is the second time that the G5 didn't impress me.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I guess we'll have to become dyno queens and get a nice set of peak #'s that will impress you. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> You haven't even seen what the graph looks like, but all it takes is a set of peak #'s for you to not be impressed. You can't please everybody all the time! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

JC

What are the specs on the G5 vs. the TR230?

Cause I just made 388/382 last weekend on stock heads w/cutout on stock catback (after axle),stock heads,MAC headers/Y,with no tuning whatsoever. And I run 11inch TTIIs

It seems like I'm flaming, but I'm not <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

gator's 99TA

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people around here do not understand the importance of not having dyno tricks! now i do agree the 317 RWHP is VERY LOW, but hey, oh well. 390 is DAMN good considering everything.

too many people do not understand the importance of dyno tricks and the use of power sucking moser rearends and big gears, dynoing on light wheels and over inflated tires, etc

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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JC - I'm not taking your comments as a flame, so no worries there. The TR230/224 is making some GREAT power. The G5 is the exact opposite in duration. As Geoff stated in another thread, about the only thing that these two cams have in common is that they both are for LS1's. They have different lifts, different LSA's, etc. It's two different methods at making power, and they both are doing very well.

gator - I completely agree. Just check out Terry Burger's old post about his last dyno day if you want to see the difference that the dyno tricks will make. If I remember correctly, he picked up right around 10 RWHP just from the little tricks.

Lane

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How does the G5 and TR230/224 compare/work for an A4? Trevor - I guess you'll find out soon huh? Anyone else?

AlonzoVersion 1.0

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Lane:
<strong>How does the G5 and TR230/224 compare/work for an A4? Trevor - I guess you'll find out soon huh? Anyone else?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey your right around the corner from me.Also as far as cam choice its a toss up between the two in my book.Both put down the numbers but I havent seen the times from either one.That doesnt mean that there arent any though.

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Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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Lane - Both cams will work just fine in an A4, so long as you have it properly tuned. I believe Ram Air Tony had his idle at 950. This would work well for when you wanted to kick the a/c on and not have to worry with stumbling. As for the TR230/224, you can ask Patrick G. He has that cam in his '98 SS A4, so he could answer your questions for that one. I would really like to have my cam swapped in within the next few weeks. As soon as I do have it in Lane, we'll meet up so you can hear it, drive it, etc. It will give you a good idea as to how well it will work with the PT4400. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

steve

any car that can do 380-410 rwhp on stock heads is a very good combo. i remember the days where the best cars out there with heads only put down 390.

trevor, i sent lou a email a while back, i never got a reply. can you check on it for me?
ill shoot you a email about the questions i had again if needed.

steve frank

2MCHPWR

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hi trev!
390 RWHP and 378 RWTQ are great numbers with stock heads. upon closer examination, i have a few questions....
1) what gears were in that car?
2) does that exhaust have cats?
3) how much power, if any, does that dual give over the Y pipe style exhausts?

i'm curious because my numbers (in sig) are very close, but i use the smaller B1 cam. my car has hookers with normal y pipe, 4.10 gears (which suck some power on a dyno), and dyno'd with stock 16 inch rims. but i did have a ported TB.
thanx!

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