TR230 dyno numbers. I'm pissed
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Re: TR230 dyno numbers. I'm pissed
is it just me? or wasn't JC joking about being pissed?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
nice numbers dude! i am so torn between going moderate <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> with a 224 or c2, or just going for the 230 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
nice numbers dude! i am so torn between going moderate <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> with a 224 or c2, or just going for the 230 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Re: TR230 dyno numbers. I'm pissed
a friend of mine put down 392 with stock heads/FLP LT's/offroad pipe/cutout/asp crank pulley and lid on the ls1speed 224/224 .563 cam
so your numbers arent half bad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
good numbers man!
<small>[ July 20, 2002, 09:26 AM: Message edited by: 98TAauto ]</small>
so your numbers arent half bad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
good numbers man!
<small>[ July 20, 2002, 09:26 AM: Message edited by: 98TAauto ]</small>
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JC:
<strong>I wanted 400rwhp sooooo bad. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> LOL
388/382.
Mods: 98TA,M6,lid,LS6 intake,crank pulley,MAC/ORY,stock catback w/ cutout,315s on
17x11 TTIIs
Temp 95* and humid.
I'm tempted to go get me a ported TB and bring my shortbelt. LOL!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would say you are a Ported TB and Headers away from your 400rwhp mark (maybe just LT headers).
I am hoping for 400rwhp with a Ported TB and possibly a better flowing catback ..
Nice numbers either way!!
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<small>[ July 20, 2002, 10:46 AM: Message edited by: Crowley ]</small>
<strong>I wanted 400rwhp sooooo bad. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> LOL
388/382.
Mods: 98TA,M6,lid,LS6 intake,crank pulley,MAC/ORY,stock catback w/ cutout,315s on
17x11 TTIIs
Temp 95* and humid.
I'm tempted to go get me a ported TB and bring my shortbelt. LOL!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would say you are a Ported TB and Headers away from your 400rwhp mark (maybe just LT headers).
I am hoping for 400rwhp with a Ported TB and possibly a better flowing catback ..
Nice numbers either way!!
Crowley
<small>[ July 20, 2002, 10:46 AM: Message edited by: Crowley ]</small>
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Re: TR230 dyno numbers. I'm pissed
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gator's 99TA:
<strong>the thing i have a problem with is that you and TR are (very loosely here, so dont be mad) misleading people into thinking 400 RWHP is easy or even the par number with stock heads. yes you did get that number (actually well over 400) through a very beefy drivetrane, but what many do not understand is your car has every possible reasonably bolt on while most people do not. most do not understand with an LS1 intake and no pulleys, stock TB, etc you are not going to make that kind of power. most do not have all these small bolt ons, which in the end, really help out the final result.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No offense taken. However, I don't think I'm misleading anyone. I posted every mod that was done to the car at the time of the dyno when the dynosheets were posted. If people are going to assume they will make the same power as my car or others with less mods (especially the important exhaust mods), then they are setting themselves up for disappointment and have not done enough research on the matter.
The only way I would be misleading anyone is if I didn't post mods done to the car. This hasn't happened. So, I feel that what you posted is incorrect.
Jason
<small>[ July 20, 2002, 02:55 PM: Message edited by: Jason99T/A ]</small>
<strong>the thing i have a problem with is that you and TR are (very loosely here, so dont be mad) misleading people into thinking 400 RWHP is easy or even the par number with stock heads. yes you did get that number (actually well over 400) through a very beefy drivetrane, but what many do not understand is your car has every possible reasonably bolt on while most people do not. most do not understand with an LS1 intake and no pulleys, stock TB, etc you are not going to make that kind of power. most do not have all these small bolt ons, which in the end, really help out the final result.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No offense taken. However, I don't think I'm misleading anyone. I posted every mod that was done to the car at the time of the dyno when the dynosheets were posted. If people are going to assume they will make the same power as my car or others with less mods (especially the important exhaust mods), then they are setting themselves up for disappointment and have not done enough research on the matter.
The only way I would be misleading anyone is if I didn't post mods done to the car. This hasn't happened. So, I feel that what you posted is incorrect.
Jason
<small>[ July 20, 2002, 02:55 PM: Message edited by: Jason99T/A ]</small>
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Jason is right. A lot of people including myself expect big #'s and they do not read the whole post. I do a lot of research. I tried to take shortcuts before when it came to who I was going to purchase my go fast goodies from. Do not take any shortcuts. Listen to what the experienced people tell you. You will come out better..
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VINCE:
<strong>Jason is right. A lot of people including myself expect big #'s and they do not read the whole post. I do a lot of research. I tried to take shortcuts before when it came to who I was going to purchase my go fast goodies from. Do not take any shortcuts. Listen to what the experienced people tell you. You will come out better..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You are right on here. I did a ton of research and found a few combos I really liked. I was most interested in the sum of all parts instead of any particular facet of build up.
I wasn't disappointed. No shortcuts.
<strong>Jason is right. A lot of people including myself expect big #'s and they do not read the whole post. I do a lot of research. I tried to take shortcuts before when it came to who I was going to purchase my go fast goodies from. Do not take any shortcuts. Listen to what the experienced people tell you. You will come out better..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You are right on here. I did a ton of research and found a few combos I really liked. I was most interested in the sum of all parts instead of any particular facet of build up.
I wasn't disappointed. No shortcuts.
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See my sig.Btw on the same Bosch dyno my car pulls about 292 or 294 rwhp s stock(Except for a Borla cat back)Thunder knows my car <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Jason99T/A, do you run a completely stock bottom end? ie. stock rods, rod bolts, pistons.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by v8 ute:
<strong>Jason99T/A, do you run a completely stock bottom end? ie. stock rods, rod bolts, pistons.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, it is a completely stock bottom end.
<strong>Jason99T/A, do you run a completely stock bottom end? ie. stock rods, rod bolts, pistons.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, it is a completely stock bottom end.
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Re: TR230 dyno numbers. I'm pissed
Thanks for the comments guys and the suggestions. I've actually had quite an ordeal with this car. But now I got it close to where I'll be happy. I recently (in my garage) swapped from an A4 to a M6. BTW: The car made 364/363 with the same mods (although the exhaust was capped up) w/ the A4, stock converter.
I picked up about 27rwhp/20tq w/ the tranny/open cutout swap.
Kimchee- I think this car has gobs of torque down low. I don't have a scanned graph but, I'm making 350rwtq at 3.5 and it peaks at 4k.
It hasn't been tuned properly but my A/F is darn near perfect already. It leans out from 3k to 4k w/ 14.1 but from there starts to drop down to 13.1 by 6.6rpms. (Maybe it could use a bit more fuel?)
I picked up about 27rwhp/20tq w/ the tranny/open cutout swap.
Kimchee- I think this car has gobs of torque down low. I don't have a scanned graph but, I'm making 350rwtq at 3.5 and it peaks at 4k.
It hasn't been tuned properly but my A/F is darn near perfect already. It leans out from 3k to 4k w/ 14.1 but from there starts to drop down to 13.1 by 6.6rpms. (Maybe it could use a bit more fuel?)
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Re: TR230 dyno numbers. I'm pissed
Oh yeah. The cam spec'd out to a 230/224 .574/.564 110.8 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />