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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Unhappy TREX low #'s. Not Happy....

Check out my sig for all my mods to date. I've heard a ton of good things about the Trex cam and now I've got one and I can't seem to get the numbers that everyone else has. Cam only tune was 375rwhp and about 365rwtq. Cam and heads was 402rwhp and about 380rwtq. Short block has new bearings, balanced rotating assembly with diamond forged pistons and it's almost newly done(about 1,000 miles) so i don't think it can be anything crazy in the bottom end. I only have the LS1 intake right now but even then i should see much better numbers. I don't know what else to do.

Anyone got any ideas on what's going on? too conservative of a tune?

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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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cam-only numbers arent too bad but are a bit low with the heads... what/whos dyno was this on? do you have a sheet you can post?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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i don't have the sheet anymore i was cleaning the garage and tossed it i think. Car was dyno tuned by Speed Inc.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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What cc heads did you buy and what size intake runner are they. If the intake runners are big or the comp ratio is too low you will produce low numbers.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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What cc heads did you buy and what size intake runner are they. If the intake runners are big or the comp ratio is too low you will produce low numbers.
TSP's CNC ported LS6 stg.1 heads. should be stock cc's. as far as runner size i'm not sure. they don't specify on the website. I know i'll lose a lil bit from the -2cc valve reliefs in the pistons but i'm not sure if that would explain my low numbers.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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That shouldn't explain numbers that low.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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As far as 1/4 mile times last run was 12.32 @ 116mph. Does that seem low too?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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The LS1 intake is costing you about 15-20rwhp so thats one problem. The car is probably starving for air.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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I tuned a cam-only LS1 with a T-Rex to 450 rwhp and 405 rwtq (of course, it had HVMC headers, FAST 90, and all the best bolt-ons). Cam-only, you should be higher than you are now. With ported heads, you should be even higher than that. Can you show us the graph? It would be interesting to see where you make peak power and torque and how your tq looks at 3000 rpm. Cam could be in at wrong centerline.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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ls6 intake at the least.

FAST 90 would gain you around 30rwhp with that big of a cam + ported ls6 heads.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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the intake is EASILY costing you 20rwhp like was said. Put on a ported fast or if you don't have much cash, get an ls6 intake.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PunkNPonys
The LS1 intake is costing you about 15-20rwhp so thats one problem. The car is probably starving for air.
sick looking car man... got an F-quick or anything?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
I tuned a cam-only LS1 with a T-Rex to 450 rwhp and 405 rwtq (of course, it had HVMC headers, FAST 90, and all the best bolt-ons). Cam-only, you should be higher than you are now. With ported heads, you should be even higher than that. Can you show us the graph? It would be interesting to see where you make peak power and torque and how your tq looks at 3000 rpm. Cam could be in at wrong centerline.

I'll see if I can find the dyno sheet. I cleaned out my garage over the winter but i might have it somewhere.
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by imslow
sick looking car man... got an F-quick or anything?
Thanks man. F-quick?
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Trex is a great cam for Stock cubes
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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This was my latest dyno run.

2000 Trans Am M6
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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Hey your biggest problem is that fing ls1 intake. Swap it out for a ls6 intake. I bet you see over 30rwhp jump. That big cam likes to move air and the ls1 intake restricts it like CRAZY. Also whats your compression?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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I'm gonna get a new intake in the near future. Compression ratio should be close to stock if not a lil lower with the -2cc valve reliefs. As far as actual cylinder compression i haven't checked it since before i put new pistons in it.
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I take it the heads are not milled?
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Also what is your head gasket thicknes?
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