highgmc

I am selling my charger to do heads/cam and nitrous. which are better and why. track times?

GTP stage 2
OR
MTI stage 2

I am leaning toward the MTI <img border="0" alt="[Firebird]" title="" src="graemlins/formula.gif" />

Onyx LS1

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Both are good heads. There have been quite a few 440+ rwhp MTI heads/cam cars, but I'm sure there are some GTP cars that are right up there.

DravenMyers

You can't go wrong with either one, but MTI heads do cost a bit more. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />

<small>[ August 04, 2002, 10:37 PM: Message edited by: DravenMyers ]</small>

VINCE

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I agree with the first 2 comments.. Its going to be a toss up. Both are awesome heads..

alexWS6

i'm not that familar with gtp's. but you can't go wrong with MTI's, hand ported in-house and excellent flow numbers.

not that this should sway you but i've seen a race between 2 nearly identical f-bodys. both with full bolt-ons and same size cam, 1 with mti stage 2 ls6 heads, 1 with gtp stage 2 ls6 heads. the mti car had 1 or 2 car lengths the entire race

AlonzoVersion 1.0

Honestly get whatever one is cheaper because both put down the numbers as well as the track times.You cant go wrong with either one.

mmiller

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I would say definitely MTI without hesitation. MTI has laid down the better dyno numbers and track times. I have never heard of a GTP headed car outperform an MTI headed car anywhere. MTI's heads do cost more than GTP's, but in this case you definitely get what you pay for.

Hands down, easy choice is MTI!!

Smoke_ur_5.0

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I think both heads are awesome and both are pricey..but like mentioned earlier you get what you pay for.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have never heard of a GTP headed car outperform an MTI headed car anywhere.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have yet to see any 6m MTI heads/cam top Moose's 6m GTP heads/cam car...Hell I haven't even come close to Mooses car either. He has run 11.0's at 125mph at 3380 race weight.

I say it's a toss up between the two myself.

Fireball

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have yet to see any 6m MTI heads/cam top Moose's 6m GTP heads/cam car...Hell I haven't even come close to Mooses car either. He has run 11.0's at 125mph at 3380 race weight.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There have been quite a few very good GTP performers out there...Moose, GeorgeC's old setup, etc. What was even more impressive was that it was pretty warm that day moose ran that 11.0, it definately wasn't -2000' DA day...

LS1x2

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mmiller:
<strong>I would say definitely MTI without hesitation. MTI has laid down the better dyno numbers and track times. I have never heard of a GTP headed car outperform an MTI headed car anywhere. MTI's heads do cost more than GTP's, but in this case you definitely get what you pay for.

Hands down, easy choice is MTI!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pretty borad generalization there Matt. MTI heads are great. So are GTP's. Both of them you have to wait FOREVER to get it seems. There are 10/low 11 second GTP headed cars all over the place as well as MTI headed cars.

LEO

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I was very pleased with my MTI heads/cam combo and I feel you would be too, they do top notch work. I believe Moose's set up was a solid roller, I don't know of any MTI 346 solid roller customers to compare his #'s with.

Hardtop

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LEO:
<strong>I was very pleased with my MTI heads/cam combo and I feel you would be too, they do top notch work. I believe Moose's set up was a solid roller, I don't know of any MTI 346 solid roller customers to compare his #'s with.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't think Moose is running a solid roller. Good sized cam, not solid roller. One other thing to take in, Moose can drive. He'd prolly out drive 99.99 % of the M6 guys out there. <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> Strong running GTP car. Don't think you can go wrong with either GTP or MTI. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Bruce

Fireball

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LEO:
<strong>I was very pleased with my MTI heads/cam combo and I feel you would be too, they do top notch work. I believe Moose's set up was a solid roller, I don't know of any MTI 346 solid roller customers to compare his #'s with.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">moose runs the 226/226 112 PIG cam...definately hydraulic <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

JS

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Whats the lift on Moose's cam,595 to 600?
Its a stout cam but his car is VERY IMPRESSIVE!!

JS

highgmc

putting my charger on ebay tonight. I think I will go with the MTI, pepper has some AMAZING times!

mmiller

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You're making the right choice Terry. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Terry Burger

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Most guys named Terry on this board prefer MMS parts. Can't go wrong with 127mph in a NA heads/cam A4. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

mmiller

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>Most guys named Terry on this board prefer MMS parts. Can't go wrong with 127mph in a NA heads/cam A4. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not necessarily TB. Keep in mind that you have gutted "race car" too. Also, a certain MTI Camaro which I think you've heard of, cough pepper, cough, is still quicker than your ride, and will look to get even quicker come this winter. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

MTI rules at the track!

Terry Burger

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What does Pepper run in the summer heat? I heard 11.0@122. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> He's a lot more gutted than I am too! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

titanium barchetta

I have yet to see any MTI car get out of the 12's...... <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />