george

Hey everyone. Check this out. I just dynoed my car with the mods in my sig with, no tuning, no tricks, and just laid down 391rwhp/378rwtq with the GM Hotcam and bolt ons. My air/fuel was 13.0 all the way across. I'm happy with the results. What do you guys think? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Here is a link to th graph...
http://heath.abbate.org/firebird/georgedyno.pdf

<small>[ August 21, 2002, 04:31 PM: Message edited by: george ]</small>

gator's 99TA

iTrader: (2)

well that would be UNHEARDOF with your mods. did you forget to mention your sneaky pete nitrous shot? sorry, unless you mean horsepower at the crankshaft (converted) i am going to have to call BS. <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> most people are in teh area of 360 rwhp on stock tuning. lets see that graph

jmX

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gator's 99TA:
<strong>well that would be UNHEARDOF with your mods. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Uh, no, others have done 390rwhp+ with stock heads, stock tuning, and a hotcam. This is the 3rd time on the boards I've seen this happen.

gator's 99TA

iTrader: (2)

i know of ONE car that is like that and i certainly do not remember stock tuning (not stock PCM). so why is it this and two other cars are capable of pulling such dyno numbers with no tricks? everyone else is in the 355-360 range. what makes your car special. sorry, i still see some smoke here. lets see some proof. i have a hard time believing it esp with the 218 intake duration.

VINCE

iTrader: (1)

STD or SAE..? That is kind of high.. I had to get tuning to get 390rwhp/380rwtq with the T1 cam and stock heads. It must be the Shaner TB <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

mgreen

haha, he gets good numbers with a hotcam so it's BS.

But when a "net hype cam" gets bad numbers it's tuning or combo.

I have yet to see a cammed only 6spd car up here (or A4) that impressed me or blows my doors off.

Not to mention, I cross the traps 1000rpms below my HP peak with my crappy 3.42's, still on stock TB & stock LS1 intake. Only weight removed is spare & jack. . . on stock wheels & tires spinning entirely through 2nd gear. ~3500lb's.

Mike
hotcammed m6
12.5@114 w/ 2.0

<small>[ August 21, 2002, 06:51 AM: Message edited by: mgreen ]</small>

98blackSS

Sorry, but until I see a dyno graph, I'm also doubting... Wish my hotcam put down those kind of numbers though <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

TA_2001

Well like i told the man, I need a Shaner
Throttle body and a pully. I have
lid+catback+SLP lt kit + hotcam
351/364

Im pretty happy with that, i dont get down to
the track much so it work great for me..

Im glad to see somebody come out high with
these cams..
Yea! for the hotcam camp :worship:

Black Magic

I dunno guys. I was the one with the foot on the gas. What's so hard to believe? My own Hot Cam car put out 397/403 with stock tuning, stock heads, SLP longtubes, LS6 intake, MMS throttle body, ASP pulley, Whisper Lid, and pretty much any other bolt on you can put on these things. I was able to yank the front wheels off the ground at launch, then again shifting into second. My best time was 12.15, but my trap speed was 119! I have a few ideas to get George up and over 400. But until then, I'll see if I can find a way to get George to post the dynograph. There are a handful of cars around here with Hot Cams in the the 385 range. It's not hard to believe at all. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

<small>[ August 21, 2002, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: Black Magic ]</small>

gator's 99TA

iTrader: (2)

so how is it that most of the world only pulls in the 350ish range and you guys are knocking on the door of 400 with STOCK programing? i assume you are not doing dumb **** like dynoing with ET Drags and weld wheels right? also CF Driveshafts and alumimum flywheels are ricer mods if you are looking for big dyno numbers.

i made 365RWHP through a Moser 12 bolt with 4.10 gears and the stock LS1 intake and no pulleys. so i assume with intake amd pulley that could take me up around 15 RWHP together and the moser with 4.10s (according to Thunder Racing) sucks up around 12 RWHP so that could Bench dyno ricer make me around 392 RWHP but that is WITH programing (assuming that it helped). but again, this is all in theory.

george

I'm not sure how to post my dyno sheet but I am MORE than willing to email it to ANYONE that doubts me. I can't beleive you don't beleive me. Would 365rwhp sound better with the little Hotcam?

290rwhp/32xrwtq bone stock
307rwhp/323rwtq cai/filter/lid/loudmouth
330rwhp/34xrwtq added longtubes
350rwhp/362rwtq added throttle body/MAF ends
391rwhp/378rwtq added Hotcam/pulley

Some please post my dyno sheet for me!!!!

george

Sorry, I didn't do ANY dyno tricks. I drove the car right off of the freeway as is and dynoed. It had the stock 17 x 9 10 spokes with F1's. I ran it through my full Corsa exhaust too but did use my off road pipes instead of cats.

35th SS

iTrader: (2)

I agree kind of high but like jmx said there are some cars that are just freaks coming from the factory and they respond well on a few mods.have a friend here he pulled a 386rwhp on his 02Ta with stock heads and a hotcam using a maf t and a few boltons.running the hotcam to.check sig.just my o2.cents <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

EVIL

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gator's 99TA:
<strong>well that would be UNHEARDOF with your mods. did you forget to mention your sneaky pete nitrous shot? sorry, unless you mean horsepower at the crankshaft (converted) i am going to have to call BS. <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> most people are in teh area of 360 rwhp on stock tuning. lets see that graph</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i have seen 2 other hot cammed cars put down that much, my car made 358 sae at the wheels with just bolt on's so i am sure that 390 can be made with a hot cam and just a raised rev limiter.

Blackbird

George, email me the graph I will help out a fellow Norcal'r and host it for you.

george

Blackbird: I sent my dyno graph to your email. The 350rwhp/362rwtq was with all of the boltons and the 391rwhp/378rwtq was with the addition of the Hotcam and ASP pulley. Thanks for hosting this for me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

AlonzoVersion 1.0

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by gator's 99TA:
<strong>so how is it that most of the world only pulls in the 350ish range and you guys are knocking on the door of 400 with STOCK programing? i assume you are not doing dumb **** like dynoing with ET Drags and weld wheels right? also CF Driveshafts and alumimum flywheels are ricer mods if you are looking for big dyno numbers.

i made 365RWHP through a Moser 12 bolt with 4.10 gears and the stock LS1 intake and no pulleys. so i assume with intake amd pulley that could take me up around 15 RWHP together and the moser with 4.10s (according to Thunder Racing) sucks up around 12 RWHP so that could Bench dyno ricer make me around 392 RWHP but that is WITH programing (assuming that it helped). but again, this is all in theory.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whats wrong with a carbon fiber drive shaft?What do you mean by ricer mod?If it makes more power and gives you better et's as well as better mph then its a good mod IMO.No one told you to get a 12 bolt and 4.30 gears and a steel driveshaft and dyno your car that way so dont knock those that arent like you.My little 10 bolt has held up fine for what I had been doing to it as well as a lot of other people.Good dyno and its not hard to believe he hit those kind of numbers with that setup remember every car is different. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

SSBoy

Gator99TA:
Dude, you need to chill out a lil bit. The guy makes a post about how happy he is to dyno what he did with his mods, and you are instantly attacking him saying, "BS", "no way!".... I mean geesh, c'mon <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

George: Those are some damn good numbers. Your 02 is responding really good to mods. I've yet to hear the hotcam in person, how does it sound? I bet pretty lopey?

george

The numbers are 100% legit. I have the stock rear/gears/clutch/flywheel/rims/tires ect...

The Hotcam idles kinda wimpy through my Corsa. It lopes but not very much volume. WOT is another story though. Very loud and bad *** sounding. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

gator's 99TA

iTrader: (2)

i am just saying with stock programing and very little mods that is very big power. i used to have a hotcam. just hard to see how it happens with so little mods. i did add up if i had a pulley and a stock rear and an LS6 intake i would be over 390 easy. sorry about that.