TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
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TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
Will there be any piston to valve clearance problem with this set up or other problems I may not know? I ordered, GTP Stage 2 heads 2.020/1.570 valves, single coil 918 springs, 772 titanium retainers and 7.400 pushrods. My original plan was to go with the TR224 cam, but I really like the power the TR230/224 .569/.563 111 cam is making and it sounds mean! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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hmm I think it will be a great setup if it doesn't cause any P to V problems <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Good luck with it!
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DravenMyers:
<strong>Will there be any piston to valve clearance problem with this set up or other problems I may not know? I ordered, GTP Stage 2 heads 2.020/1.570 valves, single coil 918 springs, 772 titanium retainers and 7.400 pushrods. My original plan was to go with the TR224 cam, but I really like the power the TR230/224 .569/.563 111 cam is making and it sounds mean! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You will be fine even if the heads are milled up 30thous.Yours arent even milled.
<strong>Will there be any piston to valve clearance problem with this set up or other problems I may not know? I ordered, GTP Stage 2 heads 2.020/1.570 valves, single coil 918 springs, 772 titanium retainers and 7.400 pushrods. My original plan was to go with the TR224 cam, but I really like the power the TR230/224 .569/.563 111 cam is making and it sounds mean! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You will be fine even if the heads are milled up 30thous.Yours arent even milled.
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by The Booker man:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DravenMyers:
<strong>Will there be any piston to valve clearance problem with this set up or other problems I may not know? I ordered, GTP Stage 2 heads 2.020/1.570 valves, single coil 918 springs, 772 titanium retainers and 7.400 pushrods. My original plan was to go with the TR224 cam, but I really like the power the TR230/224 .569/.563 111 cam is making and it sounds mean! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You will be fine even if the heads are milled up 30thous.Yours arent even milled.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">but what if you heads are milled 30 thousanths
7400 or 7350.
thanks wayne
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DravenMyers:
<strong>Will there be any piston to valve clearance problem with this set up or other problems I may not know? I ordered, GTP Stage 2 heads 2.020/1.570 valves, single coil 918 springs, 772 titanium retainers and 7.400 pushrods. My original plan was to go with the TR224 cam, but I really like the power the TR230/224 .569/.563 111 cam is making and it sounds mean! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You will be fine even if the heads are milled up 30thous.Yours arent even milled.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">but what if you heads are milled 30 thousanths
7400 or 7350.
thanks wayne
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
I spoke to Paul @ Thunder when I ordered this cam, and he wasn't very confident in milling heads with this cam. Being on a 111 lsa, the clearance is very tight already, and milling even at .010 or .020 may put you at risk of needing to fly cut the pistons...
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by The Booker man:
<strong>You will be fine even if the heads are milled up 30thous.Yours arent even milled.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There is no way to tell this until you actually measure piston to valve clearance. We will be doing this very shortly and will post the results. However, we do expect the clearance on the intake valve to be very tight.
If the clearance is acceptable, look to see some dyno results with a set of GTP stg 2s with this cam pretty soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ May 14, 2002, 11:57 PM: Message edited by: Jason99T/A ]</small>
<strong>You will be fine even if the heads are milled up 30thous.Yours arent even milled.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There is no way to tell this until you actually measure piston to valve clearance. We will be doing this very shortly and will post the results. However, we do expect the clearance on the intake valve to be very tight.
If the clearance is acceptable, look to see some dyno results with a set of GTP stg 2s with this cam pretty soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ May 14, 2002, 11:57 PM: Message edited by: Jason99T/A ]</small>
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
lets see these numbers with this set up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
I will bet 100 bucks that it will clear.Unless of course he is using 5.3 heads then I would seriously question it.But if they are 5.7 heads get ready to pay up everyone. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> My reasoning for saying this is that if the heads are 5.7 heads then John campbell has his heads milled 60thous and has a 224/224/ dur and 581/581 lift 112lsa with no piston to valve clearance.Now if his heads arent milled at all well...do the math=plenty of room for that cam.But only if they are 5.7 heads.Sorry for misleading info earlier but I wasnt sure which heads you were talking about.
<small>[ May 31, 2002, 04:14 AM: Message edited by: The Booker man ]</small>
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
duration has more impact on PV clearance than lift and this cam has a whopping 6 more degrees of duration <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
I'm betting it will be tight...remember you want to maintain ~.090" of PV clearance minimum.
I'm betting it will be tight...remember you want to maintain ~.090" of PV clearance minimum.
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fireball:
<strong>duration has more impact on PV clearance than lift and this cam has a whopping 6 more degrees of duration <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
I'm betting it will be tight...remember you want to maintain ~.090" of PV clearance minimum.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto!!
We haven't been able to check PtV clearance since we didn't have any cams in stock. A new batch just arrived two days ago and we will be looking into checking clearance real soon.
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<strong>duration has more impact on PV clearance than lift and this cam has a whopping 6 more degrees of duration <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
I'm betting it will be tight...remember you want to maintain ~.090" of PV clearance minimum.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto!!
We haven't been able to check PtV clearance since we didn't have any cams in stock. A new batch just arrived two days ago and we will be looking into checking clearance real soon.
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by The Booker man:
<strong>Jason are his heads 5.3 heads?Thanks bro.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whose heads are you talking about?
<strong>Jason are his heads 5.3 heads?Thanks bro.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Whose heads are you talking about?
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DravenMyers:
<strong>Mine are 5.7 heads.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Get ready to pay up boys it will clear as sure enough the lakers will win the championship. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>Mine are 5.7 heads.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Get ready to pay up boys it will clear as sure enough the lakers will win the championship. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DravenMyers:
<strong>Mine are 5.7 heads.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Think about it fellas if MTI is using a 230/227 591/571 cam on ls6 heads which come with higher compression stock than ls1 heads why would Thunders 230/224 569/563 lift not work the same unless of course he has ls6 heads that are getting milled.
<strong>Mine are 5.7 heads.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Think about it fellas if MTI is using a 230/227 591/571 cam on ls6 heads which come with higher compression stock than ls1 heads why would Thunders 230/224 569/563 lift not work the same unless of course he has ls6 heads that are getting milled.
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Re: TR230/224 111 with GTP Stage 2 heads?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jason99T/A:
<strong>[QUOTE]If the clearance is acceptable, look to see some dyno results with a set of GTP stg 2s with this cam pretty soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You damn right! <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
<strong>[QUOTE]If the clearance is acceptable, look to see some dyno results with a set of GTP stg 2s with this cam pretty soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You damn right! <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fireball:
[QB]duration has more impact on PV clearance than lift and this cam has a whopping 6 more degrees of duration <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> can you not read this
[QB]duration has more impact on PV clearance than lift and this cam has a whopping 6 more degrees of duration <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> can you not read this