all bore or all stroke for street duty
10-14-2002, 10:28 PM
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all bore or all stroke for street duty What would be best for the street with maybe one or two trips to the track a year. The high reving all bore, or the tq of a stroker. I maybe drive the car maybe 40 miles a week total sometimes less than that. Reliability isnt my number one concern but I do want it to be reliable enough to make 200 mile trips without any problems.
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10-14-2002, 10:49 PM
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty Stroker all the way! The stroker engines tend to produce quite a bit more torque than the all bores. And on the street torque is king. You have to figure your car is usually cruising between 1500-3500 on the street. That's where you want your power. Engine longevity will be much longer with a stroker also. The high RPM stuff is fun, but on a daily driver it's quite a risk. That's usually when you blow stuff apart!
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10-14-2002, 11:15 PM
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty but what would be the advantages of the all bore on the street. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
10-15-2002, 08:31 AM
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty The stroker will make a better cruiser, low end torque eliminates the need for downshifts in M6 or allows an A4 to run a tighter converter. The downside is using the torque on street tires, especially off the line.
A big bore will rev high and be more fun when you are flogging it. Properly geared it will be faster from a roll and as fast off the line. The extra gear will feel responsive in town too although cost you some revs on the highway.
For an A4, the stroker has a lot of appeal. If I had an M6 I would want the all bore and 4.10s <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
A big bore will rev high and be more fun when you are flogging it. Properly geared it will be faster from a roll and as fast off the line. The extra gear will feel responsive in town too although cost you some revs on the highway.
For an A4, the stroker has a lot of appeal. If I had an M6 I would want the all bore and 4.10s <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
10-15-2002, 05:26 PM
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty No doubt about it in my perspective. Around town fun is immediatly there with the stroker. Check my sig'. More than two years now and done right where you are. I still get 24 MPG on freeway trips.
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty Hmm choices choices, I thought it would cheaper to go with the all bore because all you would need is the pistons (around an 11.0-11.5 gotta talk to mti about what i can get away with here in the Houston weather on 92oct gas), rings, and rods. But you do have to get the block machined. But with the stroker I could do that in my garage (I think). yea well i guess im leaning tward the stroker. O yea by the way I have an M6. With the tq of a stroker, rev it twice, and dump the clutch. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty I'd go with the stroker for the street/ocassional stip. If you start changing gearing in the all bore engine to match the off line grunt of the stroker, you will loose your mileage on those occasional 200 mile trips. I would also think that a stroker would be a little cheaper (though I'm not 100% sure).
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty Okay, here's one for you. What if I use my car for patrol work? Would a stroker still be better or an all bore? I drive my car during patrol at least a hundred miles a day, with an occasional chase for speeders and stolen vehicles. I only work 3 days a week, but 12 hour shifts, so I tack on about 350+ miles per week. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty I would vote for the stroker in a big way for your "patrol" application. Instantly available torque/acceleration(sp) at most any RPM/MPH.
10-16-2002, 07:32 PM
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty Any numbers on the strokers??????Also what do you have done to your car along with the stroker???TIA
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10-16-2002, 08:11 PM
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty My question is what would be better for highway racing? The torque of a stroker, or the high revs of a bored motor? I would think all bore, but yall tell me. Don't race from too many stoplights, and I ain't gonna break my car on the strip unless someone wants to donate some rearend money <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by P&DZs:
<strong>No doubt about it in my perspective. Around town fun is immediatly there with the stroker. Check my sig'. More than two years now and done right where you are. I still get 24 MPG on freeway trips.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How much does the MTI 382 stroker go for, my car has a lot of miles on it so I was thinking getting the pistons in 3.920 instead of the 3.900 becasue I might have some wear or imperfections in the cylinder walls. Other than that im all for the stroke now. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> Well time for me to start looking at dyno graphs to see what cam gives me the powerband I want. Most likley something that will pull clean up to 6500.
<strong>No doubt about it in my perspective. Around town fun is immediatly there with the stroker. Check my sig'. More than two years now and done right where you are. I still get 24 MPG on freeway trips.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How much does the MTI 382 stroker go for, my car has a lot of miles on it so I was thinking getting the pistons in 3.920 instead of the 3.900 becasue I might have some wear or imperfections in the cylinder walls. Other than that im all for the stroke now. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> Well time for me to start looking at dyno graphs to see what cam gives me the powerband I want. Most likley something that will pull clean up to 6500.
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty What would happen if i went with a 4.000 bore and stroke, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> would i get the best of both worlds or what, because i still do have that ticking time bomb of a rearend but you will hardly see me going from a red light.
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Re: all bore or all stroke for street duty For you guys in Houston, take the time to go to MTI out by Dairy-Ashford and Westheimer and talk to them about their stroker offerings. I'm in Florida and made the trip to have them do mine. Most of what is in the car is in my sig'. For general numbers you've got $4000 for the forged crank/pistons/billet rods-$2500 for stage II heads-$1000 for cam and custom computer tune-$1300 for FLP LT headers-$700 for PI Vig' converter-$450 ? LS6 intake-maybe another $2500 for labor gaskets bolts misc.-and then there's-trany' cooler-ported TB-modified MAF-Lid-K&N-hardened pushrods-Free flowing catback- what am I missing ??? With this kind of power you'd better have SFC's-STB-LCA's. Maybe better brakes-Eradispeed rotors-Hawk pads-SS braided lines.......... Add's up.
