LS1IMPULSE

iTrader: (42)

You could just as easily go with patriot heads, and any cam you want.

Tainted

iTrader: (9)

yea but patriot doesnt have a complete heads/cam kit

LS1IMPULSE

iTrader: (42)

No, but the PP stage 1 LS6 head are 1095 assembled with dual springs a cam is 400, and PR's are around 100 anywere. Total - 1600

The TSP package is 1,500 with factory LS6 springs and 1764 with PP duals.

If your choice is limited to the 228R/T2 just becuause it comes in a package, then dont buy the package. The patriot heads/whatever cam you REALLY want can be had for either 100 more, or 70-150 less if you buy upgraded valve springs from TSP.

fast99z28

i dont think you should really go over a 2800 stall for a DD, since driveability is a HUGE issue.

Tainted

iTrader: (9)

im gonna stick with a 3k stall sicne im gonna go with the 228R now

BigBake

Say what? The stall he was going to use is hardly a big stall. I drove with a 3500 stall for years, and in fact it improved driveability. A 2800 stall is a joke, might as well stay with a stock converter.

Tainted

iTrader: (9)

everyone acts like a huge stall will drive like stock but I know it wont, the 3200 is plenty big, I gotta be in school traffic and rush hour traffic

phoenix1987

iTrader: (3)

I would consider having Texas Speed do the tune if you buy there cam. I have heard nothing but bad things about mail order tunes. Buy a heads and cam package from Texas Speed and they can do a good tune and I think they even knock off some of the price of the tune if you buy one of their heads and cam package. Just some info.

Tainted

iTrader: (9)

well I got a tuen from pcmforless before so its only 50 bucks to have my pcm retuned

Tainted

iTrader: (9)

up we go for the nite for a few last opinions and input

BOWTIE

Well it may not matter to you, but i bet you could get a custom cam from TSP for the same price or damn near. That is the route I took.

LS1C5Vette

iTrader: (11)

I am in the same boat as you (V.2 or 228R) sp please keep them coming!!!

BigBake

I live in DC, you are not going to get much worse traffic then that. A 3500 stall is not noticeable in normal driving conditions and in fact makes 2nd gear a little more usable for passing. You will not take a hit in gas mileage, it will stay the same. It does not rev to 3500rpm and then moves, it will off idle move the car also. They are that tight, no difference from normal driving. A 4000+ stall and yes you will notice a difference when driving. You are forgetting one part of the equation here, that the 4L60E has a tight first gear, which makes a loose stall seem normal.

RZRSEDGE

iTrader: (21)

I agree on the above reference to a larger stall. You really won't be maximizing your combo on a small stall, and unless you go real big, you won't see much of a drivability issue in any kind of traffic. Now if you don't get a big enough stall for your cam; that's when you'll start to see some awkwardness in a daily driver. A 3,200-3,500 is'nt a huge change; but it is the details that make the difference! Good luck!

4mula

the stock bottom end of a C5 Z06 is the same as a f-body and its fine spinning higher rpm.

4mula

bullshit. my 3000 rpm stall is tight and drives almost like stock

4mula

i vote the 228 simply because you want a more tame combo.
stop being cheap and get a real dyno tune.

Tainted

iTrader: (9)

Its not the fact that I cant pay for a good dyno tune, its the fact the nearest person that is reputable is over 2 hours away. so that means a good $400 the tune, all that money for gas, and the time to do it

Ryan02SS

iTrader: (3)

Either do it right or don't do it. You'll be much better off in the long run going with a full on dyno tune. You mention the added $$ and time. What happens if your mail order tune is off and you hurt your motor. The added time and $$$ is going to multiply big time and you will be wishing it was done right the first time around.

Another misconception in choosing cams it that most think that the larger duration and lift they can stuff in the motor will make more power. Not the case most of the time. The better your heads flow the less camshaft will be needed to make the same amount of power.

Choosing a cam is give and take situation. There is not perfect cam and they all have ups and downs. You need to choose based off what your requirements are.

Tainted

iTrader: (9)

I'll get the dyno tune when I can. im thinking about this plan...

Have bryan @pcmforless giuve me the ebst tune he can for now so the car will even run. theres a dyno right by my house but I dont trust them to tune it. so They can do a few dyno pulls and I could send the info to bryan and have him finalize the tune.

sound like a plan?