LS1rulz

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I'm not talking about at the track. And the "power under the curve for a street car" is weak since we have this new invention called GEARS. Sorry for the confusion. I'm talking about street racing and using it like any other race, where you'd SHIFT to get into the optimal RPM.

slt200mph

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Thanks for your responce sir I am very aware of gearing I have been doing this hot rodding thing now for over 45 years now and have ran super stock nhra national record holding door slammers in the low 9s @ 144 and a TAD in the 6.0s @ 217 ..there is nothing weak about making power under the curve..it is what happens when you plan the combination of all your mods to obtain your performance goal..you can move your power band to where you want it for your particular application..I choose not to shift at 7000 where my power doesnt start to come in till 4000...I have good power at 3000 and below and I shift at 6500...I have run 4.10 gears for the last 45,000 miles..but I drive my hot rod 25,000-30,000 miles a year and most of it is on the highway..so for me 3.42s are what I run now..I have a 3.73 rear end and it is probably the best gear for my application but I like the milage that I am getting with my current set up since gas is higher than Giraffe *****.. good luck to you with your street racing .. it is a dangerous activity for you and the general public..you need to pick your places to do it wisely..

347fairless

The car runs amazing from 2500 rpms and up. It idles at 800 rpm, and drives fine at 1700 rpms.

I am gonna throw this out there for the haters (you know who you are in this thread). I will take video of whatever aspect you want of this cam. You want a tach video, a video from outside the car. Want me to run a MSwhatever cam only car. Whatever, I'll do it. I'll tpae it, and I'll post it.

You want a dyno pull on another dyno, set it up, and I'll do it. This cam is the real deal. Untouched stock heads never off the car. LS6 intake.

Screw it, stay intouch on this thread. I'll make the video this week.

N4cer

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None of those matter. 1/8th and 1/4th mile times are what talk. The rest is just details.

03EBZ06

just a lil 224 cam.
224 Cam Video->Shifts around 6600+rpm

Adam_346

I wanna see

ShiznityZ28

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Id go with the PSI MOTR cam makes great "real" power in stock headed cars. No crazy dyno fluke numbers. actual usable HP.

ShiznityZ28

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Im with this guy !

347fairless

1/4 Mile ET: 11.710
1/4 Mile MPH: 121.020
1/8 Mile ET: 7.500
1/8 Mile MPH: 93.980
0-60 Foot ET: 1.710


Full Weight, Ls6 intake, Granny Shifted on 17's.

I think the times would be much better with 4.56 gear, but I plan on running a 150 shot in the fall.

I just offered up the video to show daily driving situations, and the from roll potential. I'm still gonna make it.

Black FormulaLs1

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so long as i dont have to worry about PTV issues i think i will go with the Vindicator cam.....i drive my formy like i stole it...and i run 93 octane with supporting mods..but please if you do have any videos...shoot...who doesnt like a good video? and dyno videos are cool too...no bs..just numbers..if you dont like what you see..then thats up to you...but so far a good thread..

02SOMWS6

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My little 224/228 cam pushed my 3400lbs. car(3600lbs with me in it) to a 11.2 @121 when it was putting down 426rwhp. Since then I have had Slowhawk retune it and it made 452 rwhp/408rwtq but have yet to get back to the track . It should go 10.9 NA or better at atco

ls1muscle

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You do.

nofearracing28

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If you run the 113+3 it has "good" PTV clearance...so so Ron at Vengance told me. Has anyone checked it with either of the two Vindicators??

347fairless

It's amazing what some suspension and weight reduction can do for ET's.

I'm weighing in at a portly 3850 with driver according to Maple Grove's scale.

mudflap1989

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Considering Fairless had 250 extra pounds and still trapped the same as 02SOMWS6, I'd say that fairless proved his horsepower.... traction, that's a different story. haha.

So many people have been hating on Vengeance, but many of these cars have proved themselves at many different dynos and many of them are starting to prove themselves at the track and yet people still don't believe them. I just think that some people are jealous that others are making with cam only, what they are making with cam and heads.....just kidding. Time has proved Vengenance's numbers somewhat, but with more time they will either be proved more or discredited, time will tell.

1320 killer

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I voted for the ms4. I used the ms3 in a stock cu. inch motor and I also have a tsp giant cam 248/254 ona 114 but thats in a 370. some people might say that the car is not streetable with these cams but being it is not a DD and witha good tune I haven't had any drivability issues whatsoever. good luck.

Pro Stock John

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Pinky has a Vindicator cam and TFS heads, you can hear it in this video:

View Video on FQuick

Only have like 4 motor passes on the car, and it's gone 11.3 on a 1.60 so I am pretty sure we can whittle that down to a 10.9 with this nitrous converter. Also spray 150 that day and went 10.1@133 so the cam was pretty efficient with nitrous too.

02SOMWS6

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Nice NOS times but I thought your NA times would be better. I ran a 11.2 NA when my car made 424rwhp. It has been retuned and made 452 rwhp but havent been back to the track to see what it gained. I would think with how light your car is and the fact thats it's a auto with a good converter (not sure if it has a T-brake) that you would smoke my NA times. My car weighed in at 3450 lbs that day with the front and rear bumper supports still on. Next outing it will not have the front and rear bumper supports and with the extra power it's making it should go a high 10 NA. Then the baby cam(224/228) comes out and a huge cam is going in.Flycutting is done, I'm going huge.
I am not posting this as a dig on your car. I was thinking of going auto but not sure it's worth the switch . I'll just drop weight for now. My 10.6 pass was on a 75 shot. I tryed going with a 150 shot and ran my system dry and burnt a valve. I have a standalone system for the nos so I'm hoping for a 9 second slip spraying the 150 shot. That may have to wait for the bigger cam for it to happen but cool weather is coming and the DA will be way in the -negative very soon at atco NJ.

BOWTIE

From what I gathered it sounds like the converter is a little too tight for a natuarally aspirated pass. Best time with the spray needs a tight converter, best time on the motor needs a looser converter. Hell we had one of our older 10.5 tire cars before they were really flying run 11.50 on the motor, 8.50 on the spray. Granted the cam was set up for huge nitrous, but so was the converter and gear. On the motor it actually sounded like the rpms fell off when you let go of the brake and then started to make power again once you were way out there.

02SOMWS6

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that makes sense that the converter is to blame. Hard to have the best of both worlds running NA and nos when you have a converter working against you