they both have the same RPM powerband according to TSP.

Why not go with the MS4 that makes more power? or am I missing something(s)


Also I see that the torquer v2 aned 233/239 cam have a similar powerband, if so. I probably would consider the 233/239 cam for a higher peak HP and still driveable powerband with my 3.73s.

wouldnt you agree?

 

peak power isn't everything...

 

yeah the ms4 is a 239/249 and the tv3 is a 231/234. just because the power bands are the same that doesnt mean anyhting. the ms4 is bigger and will produce more

 

yes but since it states where the powerband is, doesnt it mean bothw ill be streetable or does the powerband on the MS4 still going to lack the torque that the powerband on the torquer 3 would have?

 

so the powerband are the same and the MS4 will make more peak, isnt that more ideal? or am I missing something?

 

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Don't get too caught up in TSP's posted powerband, the torquer will have more torque down low and the MS4 will have more up top, just like you would expect.

 

Okay, good. Thanks kind sir. ^^

 

Even on a 111 the TV3 has better PTV, that alone makes it a better cam for Cam only on street applications

 

on what LSA shoould I get the Torquer 3 for mostly street use? Numerically higher than 111, right?

with a set of 5.3 stage 2 heads, some fellow from TSP said my CR would be 10.7 : 1 or so.

would that and porting my TB get me at 430 RWHP on a low humidity, but warm day? mustang dyno?

 

Contact TSP they'll tell you what fits with what.
Personally, I would run 243 castings

Get the tightest LSA you can fit without PTV issues. On a TV3 I would definately choose the 111.

Tuning will determine how good it drives.

 

Im asking because generally on a lower numerical LSA the torque curve goes in the higher RPM ranges.

 

No a tight LSA will bring the power on sooner and the trq on sooner.

 

wouldnt a 110 LSA have a higher peak torque vs 114 LSA? more low end?

Thats what I was taught, I just finished taking a cylinder block class at my automotive school.

Also I just checked out this thread:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/718547-can-magic-stick-3-dd.html
seems like people are doing fine eith the MS4 as a DD and they are saying it makes even more low end than the MS3?