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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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well it sounds like yours are fine, but post it up anyway....Maybe we can try to get a read on where things went wrong (assuming the batch numbers are actually sequential.)
My springs, batch # 051791 have no failures that I can see, they have 3-4K on them. I ordered patriot extremes yesterday though, so I'll know for sure when I pull off my 918's. I didn't feel like risking my motor over the 918's so I ordered the patriots.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
PSI-LS1511 Valve Springs -

Spring Details:
PSI-LS1511 "Maxlife" beehive Valve Springs, also sold as "Isky Tool Room Springs"
120lbs @ 1.800"
350lbs @ 1.200"
Max lift .625"

Here's a photo of them, they are also nitrided for longer life.

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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
My springs, batch # 051791 have no failures that I can see, they have 3-4K on them. I ordered patriot extremes yesterday though, so I'll know for sure when I pull off my 918's. I didn't feel like risking my motor over the 918's so I ordered the patriots.

interestingly, I just updated my list with THAT exact batch number....somebody lost a whole motor with a spring from that batch!
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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I have batch #049045......6,000 miles on them. Thoroughly inspected today and all is ok. Im in no rush to remove them till more info is gathered. But I did want to add my batch # to the mix if it will help the cause.

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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DeepBlueZ
interestingly, I just updated my list with THAT exact batch number....somebody lost a whole motor with a spring from that batch!
Well thats not good, it makes me feel better about ordering the patriots. I guess I won't drive it anymore till I get the new springs on. Do you have a link to a thread he posted in? Just trying to find out as much as I can about how they are failing and after how many miles.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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I'm on my second set of 918's with nearly 15k miles on them running a TR224 cam and don't have any problems yet, but I'd also like to add my batch number to the list. Where can I find this on my box? This is what it has labeled on my box "BATCH NUMBER:CT". There's no real "number".
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Well thats not good, it makes me feel better about ordering the patriots. I guess I won't drive it anymore till I get the new springs on. Do you have a link to a thread he posted in? Just trying to find out as much as I can about how they are failing and after how many miles.
you'll find his story here...

http://ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159887
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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I saw that thread before, I had no idea he had springs from teh same batch as me.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Here is a cople of pics of the box my springs came in. All info I can provide abou them....


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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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i had 918s that broke, i was lucky i was doing a head swap at the time.. when i took the springs off the head they broke instantly.. at least 4 of em did, so i made the move to patriot golds! a much nicer spring
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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when i found all my broken springs I called comp and sent them back to them. It took a while but they did send me a new set. I sold them as soon as i recieved them
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
PSI-LS1511 Valve Springs -

Spring Details:
PSI-LS1511 "Maxlife" beehive Valve Springs, also sold as "Isky Tool Room Springs"
120lbs @ 1.800"
350lbs @ 1.200"
Max lift .625"
Pretty close, 360lbs. open pressure and they are "1500 series "springs, meaning they have gone though a nitriding process. They arn't maxlife springs, the part number would be followed by an "ML" ML springs go though a different hardening process.

FWIW, these springs came on my Dart 225 heads, the cam I was running XFI 236/242 .615/.612 113LSA, I ran this combination for 7,000 miles, before tearing down made a last clean dyno pull, the valvetrain showed no compromise.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Fraser@SpeedInc
Pretty close, 360lbs. open pressure and they are "1500 series "springs, meaning they have gone though a nitriding process. They arn't maxlife springs, the part number would be followed by an "ML" ML springs go though a different hardening process.

FWIW, these springs came on my Dart 225 heads, the cam I was running XFI 236/242 .615/.612 113LSA, I ran this combination for 7,000 miles, before tearing down made a last clean dyno pull, the valvetrain showed no compromise.
Those springs with only 120 lbs on the seat controlled your valves? When i had 918's installed at 1.8" I was getting valve float at 5800. I had to shim them down to 1.75" to control the valves.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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anyone have any problems (or run without problems) 918's from batch #054524?
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mvvette97
when i found all my broken springs I called comp and sent them back to them. It took a while but they did send me a new set. I sold them as soon as i recieved them
Great... Comp recognized a problem with your 918 springs, and sent you another set just like the ones that broke. Kind of like hitting yourself on the head with a hammer.

The difinition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Fibbado
anyone have any problems (or run without problems) 918's from batch #054524?

As of now, I don't have any batch #s that high on my list....
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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i'm new to this so help me out here. i just bought a new set of 918s and now don't want to put them on my motor. so my question is, will the patriot duals go on a stock ls1 head without modification to the head?
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LiT1_up
i'm new to this so help me out here. i just bought a new set of 918s and now don't want to put them on my motor. so my question is, will the patriot duals go on a stock ls1 head without modification to the head?
They certainly will. Great springs. Just about everyone I know that had a broken 918 is switching to gold or platinum duals.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LiT1_up
i'm new to this so help me out here. i just bought a new set of 918s and now don't want to put them on my motor. so my question is, will the patriot duals go on a stock ls1 head without modification to the head?
absolutely....I'm running them right now after fragging that 918.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Those springs with only 120 lbs on the seat controlled your valves? When i had 918's installed at 1.8" I was getting valve float at 5800. I had to shim them down to 1.75" to control the valves.

The 120# @1.800" is simply a rating. Dart installed them at 1.750 so they are about 140# on the seat. The number at 1.800" doesn't mean much, it only gives you a base point from which to determine the required installed height for proper seat loading. There is probably no one on this forum running springs at 1.800", not even the stock springs are set up at that height, they come it at about 1.760". The difference between the PSI and the Comps is the much higher spring rate at 384 lb/in.
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