PRC .660 dual springs vs Patriot .660 lift dual springs?
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PRC .660 dual springs vs Patriot .660 lift dual springs?
Curious, any actual difference betweeen the two brands? Just curious cuz I have a set of the PRC .650 lift duals in my car from 2 years ago with a cam bigger than my buddy and have put probably 20,000 miles on it in the 2 years and a ton of track passes reving to 7000 - 7500 rpm and they're still goin strong, but my buddy just busted a patriot .660 lift spring in less than 11,000 miles and never even sees the track (but does see a lot of strenuous street duty). Just curious, cuz he had ordered a set of the PRC .660 springs and got sent Patriot .660 springs and he's worried about puttin them back in there and wondering if he should send 'em back and wait for the new one's or if they're the same? Thanks for any help guys!
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Same spring.
And was your buddy who busted the spring at less than 11K miles the same guy that really only blew out his emissions tube in his headers and caused widespread panic because he posted a thread without opening the hood first?
And was your buddy who busted the spring at less than 11K miles the same guy that really only blew out his emissions tube in his headers and caused widespread panic because he posted a thread without opening the hood first?
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Devon, I like the way a lot of the so-called "genious'" think they can figure this **** out theirselves
It was 1:30 in the morning; meaning, NIGHTTIME.
Even with a flashlight YOU CANNOT SEE THIS PROBLEM with a STB, Nitrous Lines, Plug wires, etc. in the way
We didn't even notice the hole (not to mention one wouldn't THINK to look for a hole in the header) until we had the STB, Wires, and plugs out this afternoon.
The headers are a year and a half old and the engine bay was dirty (I mentioned the rain on the highway part right ). Just as Devon was about to yank the valve-cover we thought there was dirt on the header . . . until one of us went to wipe it off
Devon will delete this thread too . . . to asuage all of your fears
It was 1:30 in the morning; meaning, NIGHTTIME.
Even with a flashlight YOU CANNOT SEE THIS PROBLEM with a STB, Nitrous Lines, Plug wires, etc. in the way
We didn't even notice the hole (not to mention one wouldn't THINK to look for a hole in the header) until we had the STB, Wires, and plugs out this afternoon.
The headers are a year and a half old and the engine bay was dirty (I mentioned the rain on the highway part right ). Just as Devon was about to yank the valve-cover we thought there was dirt on the header . . . until one of us went to wipe it off
Devon will delete this thread too . . . to asuage all of your fears
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Same spring.
And was your buddy who busted the spring at less than 11K miles the same guy that really only blew out his emissions tube in his headers and caused widespread panic because he posted a thread without opening the hood first?
And was your buddy who busted the spring at less than 11K miles the same guy that really only blew out his emissions tube in his headers and caused widespread panic because he posted a thread without opening the hood first?
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Originally Posted by BIG_MIKE2005
LOL, how the hell could you not hear that exhaust leak?? When my paper gasket blew the very corner out, it was loud as hell. I can't imagine a hole big enough to stick your finger in not bein heard, even at idle.
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I cant really blame him for freaking out and expecting the worst, and I certainly cant fault you guys for not starting the car again. You guys did the right thing.
I just wish the post didnt just to such a drastic conclusion in the title. Maybe it could have been phrased something like "Could my 660 lift platinum duals have broken with only 11K?" It just seems a bit hasty to blame a component so definitively without having researched it.
Granted Ive been guilty of incorrectly suspecting a part myself, but with all the recent 918 spring issues now, you about gave us all a heart attack. Gold and Platinum duals seem to be our last hope for reliability!
Anyway, glad you guys got things sorted out. Sorry for the tangent.
I just wish the post didnt just to such a drastic conclusion in the title. Maybe it could have been phrased something like "Could my 660 lift platinum duals have broken with only 11K?" It just seems a bit hasty to blame a component so definitively without having researched it.
Granted Ive been guilty of incorrectly suspecting a part myself, but with all the recent 918 spring issues now, you about gave us all a heart attack. Gold and Platinum duals seem to be our last hope for reliability!
Anyway, glad you guys got things sorted out. Sorry for the tangent.
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Originally Posted by BIG_MIKE2005
No, I wasn't talkin about you Devon. I meant your friend, LOL. Exhaust leaks are definetly not quiet especially at the primaries. I just would think a motor related problem like this would be a totally different sound than a finger sized hole in a primary.
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Yea, definetly glad you guys got it figured out & it wasn't worse. And like stated above I too have been dooped a time or 2 when tracing down a problem. I too always look at the worst case first. I was just basically talkin about the difference in sounds the 2 problems would make. I have never personally had a internal motor problem with my LS1, but have had a exhaust leak in the engine compartment. I would just think metal on metal would sound a bit different than a exhaust leak.
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
I cant really blame him for freaking out and expecting the worst, and I certainly cant fault you guys for not starting the car again. You guys did the right thing.
I just wish the post didnt just to such a drastic conclusion in the title. Maybe it could have been phrased something like "Could my 660 lift platinum duals have broken with only 11K?" It just seems a bit hasty to blame a component so definitively without having researched it.
Granted Ive been guilty of incorrectly suspecting a part myself, but with all the recent 918 spring issues now, you about gave us all a heart attack. Gold and Platinum duals seem to be our last hope for reliability!
Anyway, glad you guys got things sorted out. Sorry for the tangent.
I just wish the post didnt just to such a drastic conclusion in the title. Maybe it could have been phrased something like "Could my 660 lift platinum duals have broken with only 11K?" It just seems a bit hasty to blame a component so definitively without having researched it.
Granted Ive been guilty of incorrectly suspecting a part myself, but with all the recent 918 spring issues now, you about gave us all a heart attack. Gold and Platinum duals seem to be our last hope for reliability!
Anyway, glad you guys got things sorted out. Sorry for the tangent.
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Originally Posted by WOTFMAN
They are the same spring as mentioned. They are made by Associated Springs.
PP, PRC, TEA, and all other "Gold" springs are all made from the same manufacture; Associated Springs. The differences are in the retainers and seat locators.
Which one has the better retainer?
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I just got the Kit with the PRC Springs from TX Speed for my setup, it came with Titanium Retainers. I just assembled the Heads last night, they look sharp..
This is what I got..http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=172&catid=48
These are the Heads after I got done.
This is what I got..http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=172&catid=48
These are the Heads after I got done.
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