Would this be a good cam?
Would this be a good cam? My buddy wants to sell me a MS3 for a good deal and i am tring to decide if it would be good with my set up. I have a 98 Ta with 106,xxx on the clock with, mac mids, loudmouth, 3600 vig, ls6 intake, ported tb, and slp pully. The ms3 seems to be a proven cam but i am worried because i have a 98 with higher miles on it. I know that the ms3 likes higher rpm but would it really hurt if i shifted at 6500rpm? Thanks!
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First of all 106K miles just means that. Do a compression/leakdown test and establish the health of your motor first.
Based on that, make yor decision.
IMO MS# is too big for what you want unless you're willing to put on gears, intake, ported TB etc.. the supporting mods.
Based on that, make yor decision.
IMO MS# is too big for what you want unless you're willing to put on gears, intake, ported TB etc.. the supporting mods.
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Originally Posted by Nick-lt1
My buddy wants to sell me a MS3 for a good deal and i am tring to decide if it would be good with my set up. I have a 98 Ta with 106,xxx on the clock with, mac mids, loudmouth, 3600 vig, ls6 intake, ported tb, and slp pully. The ms3 seems to be a proven cam but i am worried because i have a 98 with higher miles on it. I know that the ms3 likes higher rpm but would it really hurt if i shifted at 6500rpm? Thanks!
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
First of all 106K miles just means that. Do a compression/leakdown test and establish the health of your motor first.
Based on that, make yor decision.
IMO MS# is too big for what you want unless you're willing to put on gears, intake, ported TB etc.. the supporting mods.
Based on that, make yor decision.
IMO MS# is too big for what you want unless you're willing to put on gears, intake, ported TB etc.. the supporting mods.
I have a ls6 intake, ported tb, slp pulley and 3600 vig waiting to go on.
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We have been running a comp cam with smaller numbers (212*/218* .558"/.563" 115 LSA), in a customer's ls1 88 Camaro (380whp/375 ft/lb), shifting at 6700 pulling hard as hell with a stupid flat torque curve all the way to rev limit at 6800. All this with stock rod bolts.
I say compression test your motor take your time and swap the cam the right way. Put an LS6 timing chain on your stock timing gears and a new Melling high volume oil pump at the same time.As well as hardened Pushrods and a set of valve springs to handle your new lift and revvs. Make sure you inspect the condition of the timing cover seal and gasket as well as the water pump gaskets while you have it apart and replace them as necessary. Descreen your MAF and port your TB and you should see some very good numbers. Then take it to a reputable tuner and get her dialed in.
Rod bolts are a good measure to keep your motor together, but unless you bounce every shift you ever make off your rev limiter, you should not have an issue.
-Kevin
By the way 106k miles is still just broken in. I have a customer with 206k on the clock of his 99 TA, and not even an out of place noise. We're going to rebuild it because he wants to make gobs of power with it and run deep into the 10's.
I say compression test your motor take your time and swap the cam the right way. Put an LS6 timing chain on your stock timing gears and a new Melling high volume oil pump at the same time.As well as hardened Pushrods and a set of valve springs to handle your new lift and revvs. Make sure you inspect the condition of the timing cover seal and gasket as well as the water pump gaskets while you have it apart and replace them as necessary. Descreen your MAF and port your TB and you should see some very good numbers. Then take it to a reputable tuner and get her dialed in.
Rod bolts are a good measure to keep your motor together, but unless you bounce every shift you ever make off your rev limiter, you should not have an issue.
-Kevin
By the way 106k miles is still just broken in. I have a customer with 206k on the clock of his 99 TA, and not even an out of place noise. We're going to rebuild it because he wants to make gobs of power with it and run deep into the 10's.
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Definetly check compression and leakdown to make sure everything is still healthy. Then i wouldnt really have a problem spinning it to 6500 maybe even 6800. Also, you would be much better off with some more gear (3.73 or maybe even 4.10s) and possibly even a little more converter.
Don't go with a cam that big in an auto unless its going to spend more time at the track then on the street. I also think that stall is a little too small for that cam. I had that exact stall with a 228/228 588/588 and I ran a 11.67.
Originally Posted by LS1SpeedAddict
Don't go with a cam that big in an auto unless its going to spend more time at the track then on the street. I also think that stall is a little too small for that cam. I had that exact stall with a 228/228 588/588 and I ran a 11.67.
