OneQuickSS

Im thinking of doing this cam in my car and I wanted to know a little about it! How is it holding up? Is it giving you any problems? What kind of power did you gain? What do you have the idle speed set at? What do you have your rev limiter set at? What valvetrain are you using? How long are they lasting or how long did they last? Have you ever broken anything with that cam? Do you think its too much for stock heads? Do you think its too much for stock lifters? Do you have any sound clips? If you could do it over again, would you have gone with a smaller lift? Thanks and let me know, tell me as much about it as you can.

Ragtop 99

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It is a very popular cam for stock head cars. Drivability is good, pretty close to stock with a 900 rpm idle and a little tuning.

I had one and think it was one of my favorite choices so far.

T/A Medic

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I have this cam its a excellent choice. I have an A4 idle is at 825. Im suspecting the car will got 11.6x at the track, been 11.745 with 3650 race weight. All the bolt ons, stock heads... etc
4" Mufflex w/ spintech is the exhaust

here is a sound clip for ya...

224 .581 112

<small>[ January 30, 2003, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: T/A Medic ]</small>

OneQuickSS

What valvetrain are you guys using with that cam? How long have you had the cam in the car? How long has the valvetrain lasted so far? What kind of power did you gain with that cam? Any problems so far? How did it affect your gas mileage? Thanks again!

Chris Burton

I have had that cam since middle November WITHOUT tuning (hopefully get it tuned later this year). It idles rough in the morning, but is fine after it warms up. My dyno graph in on the web page. I haven't kept gas mileage for the last three cars. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

I really like it, but now that I've had is for a while, I almost wish I had gone a little bigger. Lots of power. With the cut-out closed (and warmed up), you can hardly even tell it has a cam in it.

I've never been to a 1/4 mile track (go figure), and I have no idea about how fast it would be. The traction is terrible, because I can break the rear end loose in the first three gears at will. I do drive on road courses, and I wanted a lower torque curve to help me get out of the low speed corners and moving on the straights. Overall, VERY pleased.

I am running 918's (blue stripe) w/ titanium retainers, double roller chain, & stock heads.

HTH

<small>[ January 30, 2003, 10:46 PM: Message edited by: Chris Burton ]</small>

OneQuickSS

How can you say that you cant tell when its warmed up that it has a cam??? What kind of exhaust do you have? What do you have your idle speed set at? Thanks

Chris Burton

I have Grot headers, crappy grot y-pipe & a Magnaflow muffler. WIth the cut-out closed, and you listen real close, you can hear a little lope in the idle, but not very much. The idle is set at stock 800, and ATAP confirms that the idle is still correct.

When the cut-out is open, is just seams to rumble a LOT MORE, and the lope is much more noticable. And a ton louder.

I know it should always idle the same, but it is not.

T/A Medic

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i have 918s w/ blue stripe, Ti Retainers and hardened pushrods...

been on the car 2 or 3k mi now...

car dynoed 348 for the 11.745 ET

last dyno was 364 after changing the TTS headers to Hooker w/ new ypipe, E- Waterpump and Yella Terra Roller Rockers.

New Track times sat weather permitting.

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Raughammer

I used it to run 10.6 in a daily driver work car.

I used MTI dual springs in the heads.

Gas mileage did not change from the 222/222 cam.
Idle is good and there were no drivability problems...none.

The louder the exhaust... the rowdier the cam will sound. FYI.

98_1LE

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I drove Chris car the other day, and while it is a little more finicky than my TR220/114 cam, his car was very tame at idle. I really like the way it sounds <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

OneQuickSS

Anyone running Manley springs, pushrods, and retainers with that cam? What kind of power did you guys pick up with the valvetrain and cam? Do any of you guys think the cam is too big? Did you guys replace the lifters when you did the install? Thanks again!

Chris Burton

I also had cromoly pushrods. Stock lifters.

From just the cam, valve train, double roller chain & oil pump, I got..........
41 HP & 20 TQ WITH NO TUNING!!! Dyno graphs are on the web site.

Definitely NOT too big!

Ole Blue

i have that cam but on a 114 lobe in an A4. When it is cold you can hear the cam, but once it warms up you can barely hear the cam. It pulls hard but surges from time to time even though I had tuning.Make sure you put some headers on it to recieve the maxium power. Overall, you will be totally happy with it. I had harden pushrods and Comp 918 Springs installed also. Lastly, you can hear the valve train a little but nothing major. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

OneQuickSS

Chris Burton: What do you mean when you say oil pump? Whats the longest the valvetrain has lasted with this cam? How soon before you had to replace the lifters? Ive got FLPs and the Loudmouth, do you think even when the car is warmed up that you will notice that there is a cam in the car? Is this cam about as big as you can go on stock heads?

00bluehawk#111

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good cam overall installed w/slp springs and ti retainers on p&p heads. noticable idle, pulls hard, noisy valvetrain(compaired to the b-1 i had) but you will like it!! but get it tuned for maximum power and drivablility.

Chris Burton

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by OneQuickSS:
<strong> Chris Burton: What do you mean when you say oil pump? Is this cam about as big as you can go on stock heads? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You can go bigger (longer duration) w/ stock heads, just not much higher in lift (at least I wouldn't). My oil pump is an ARE pump that I got on a GP here. My idle oil pressure is between 60-70 at idle! My cam has only been in for a couple thousand miles, and everything is fine. With a LM, you should be able to tell. I pulled my cut-out cap back off tonight. Sounds MUCH nicer!!!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

OneQuickSS

What are the advantages of having an aftermarket oil pump? Would I be ok to use the stock one? If so, am I taking any chances on anything? What would it hurt if I was to use the stock oil pump? How much am I looking at if I was to buy an aftermarket oil pump? How much time would it add to the entire job by replacing it? Thanks

xaon

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I've had mine in for about 5k miles so far. I've been running it since August with no tuning. It has a little bit of an idle surging issue in this cold weather right now, but it's not unbearable. Also a little bit of surging around 1200 or so while trying to creep through a parking lot. I also feel a little bit of shuddering if i'm cruising down the road at about 1700-1800rpm.

I'm running FLP LT's with cats through an open borla. The lope is definately noticeable. Here is a couple of clips I took right after I installed it.

FLP LT's, No Cats, Open Cutout

FLP LT's, No Cats, Stock Formula Exhaust

I'm using REV 1116 Dual Valve springs w/titanium retainers.

If *I* were to do it over again, I'd probably go for the tr 230/224 instead, but the 224 XE-R is still nice. I finally replaced the clutch and will be hitting the track tomorrow with it, hopefully I will see some good times. It will also be getting dyno'd next weekend. I am expecting in the 380-385 range.

OneQuickSS

To Xaon: What do you mean by shuddering and surging? Do you have any sound clips of the way youre running it now, FLP LTs, high flow cats, and open Borla? Oh and why do you wish you would of gone with the 230/224? Are you using stock heads and lifters? Thanks

xaon

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the 230/224 has a little bit more top end power without sacrificing any of the low end really. It's also got a little bit meaner lope to it.

By surging I mean that the car kind of buckles when creeping along at low speed in parking lots and such. The shuddering on the freeway is usually around 1700-1800 rpm, i'm not real sure exactly how to describe it, but the car just feels unstable. Driving in 5th gear at about 55mph, i'm right in that 1700-1800 range and the car has quite a bit of extra vibration in it, making it uncomfortable to drive. I can increase my speed by about 10mph and it smooths itself out, or downshifted into 4th and thrown the revs up to 2600 or so and it would smooth out. Just an odd feeling.

I don't have any sound clips of the car with the exhaust how it is right now. I'll see about getting some. Maybe try to get a video of it on the dyno this weekend. I like the sound alot better than no cats. It's a bit more refined and got rid of the rasp and not quite as loud in the car while cruising.

I'm using stock heads, and the lifters are stock since I did the cam swap @ 10,500 miles.