MS4 and stock stalled A4???
Originally Posted by silver-mod-o
you do realize who you just quoted and wrote a nasty little response to dont you?? 
Do you think your car is running to its potential with that cam and stock converter?? I think not...
and a little word of advice, dont try and help your buddies with their setups if yours is all jacked up to begin with.... if you want to go to a track and see a 4500# truck with far less cubes come around you... let me know, it can happen
Do you think your car is running to its potential with that cam and stock converter?? I think not...
and a little word of advice, dont try and help your buddies with their setups if yours is all jacked up to begin with.... if you want to go to a track and see a 4500# truck with far less cubes come around you... let me know, it can happen
And he never said he wants the car to run to its potential. Just to run "okay". So first gear will suck... that's acceptable since he's knowingly willing to lose the down low *****. You have to be willing to lose ***** down low when buying an MS4. So no big deal. Everyone is answering like he asked if it would run record times. He didn't. Let's all re-read and leave the wannabe tough guy attitudes with the people who care. If you're not local enough to come do something about it, don't act tough. Just be a decent human being and answer another decent human being in your best possible way.
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Guys, maybe I was a bit touchy (not my usual), but that phrase "that is what I wanted to hear' is a box in itself.
Running that big overlap on a stock stall is doing things backwards and by no means is it time to do so.
It is a really bad idea because the idle will pull on your brakes very hard and you could endenger yourself as well.
That is beside the fact it will act and run like crap.
I know I sounded a bit rough, it happens sometimes, but in general I see myself as having a wise and safe approach to my advices.
Dream of fantasy but live in reality is usualy what I say.
Running that big overlap on a stock stall is doing things backwards and by no means is it time to do so.
It is a really bad idea because the idle will pull on your brakes very hard and you could endenger yourself as well.
That is beside the fact it will act and run like crap.
I know I sounded a bit rough, it happens sometimes, but in general I see myself as having a wise and safe approach to my advices.
Dream of fantasy but live in reality is usualy what I say.
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
I see myself as having a wise and safe approach to my advices.
Dream of fantasy but live in reality is usualy what I say.
Dream of fantasy but live in reality is usualy what I say.
Your track record in the internal section alone proves it. Yeah, Predator, you told him the same thing I was telling him on another board. Unfortunately his buddy has already decided that he wants a big cam before a big stall.
I know after I've gone from my M6 to my 4L80e, I don't know why anyone wouldn't go stall first.
I know after I've gone from my M6 to my 4L80e, I don't know why anyone wouldn't go stall first.
Originally Posted by crazyjoe
Listen genious, if you paid attention to the original thread, you'll find that this isnt even for my car. I own an '02 WS6 in my sig, this is for a friends car, '00 WS6. I'm just trying to do some research for him to make sure the car will be DRIVEABLE since he is dead set on camming it before the stall. And just an fyi, my car is cammed, and it's running on the stock stall perfectly fine. I posted this thread to find out about driveability of such a large cam since mine is only a 224/224. My car went 8.30 @ 89.3mph, I havent updated my sig because I dont post here much (mainly because of members like you). So as far as I'm concerned, I've received more than enough information to consider this thread closed.
A stock car with stall runs 7.6's? With a normal, everyday guy driving? That's impressive. Best I got on street tires with heads/cam was 7.9 in my M6. You sure you're talking REAL numbers and not internet numbers?
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Back on topic...
Its quite possibly the dumbet things someone can do. Why someone would spend money for their car to go slower defeats the purpose of having a car like this.
Its quite possibly the dumbet things someone can do. Why someone would spend money for their car to go slower defeats the purpose of having a car like this.
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Originally Posted by silver-mod-o
you do realize who you just quoted and wrote a nasty little response to dont you??
Do you think your car is running to its potential with that cam and stock converter?? I think not...
and a little word of advice, dont try and help your buddies with their setups if yours is all jacked up to begin with....
Do you think your car is running to its potential with that cam and stock converter?? I think not...
and a little word of advice, dont try and help your buddies with their setups if yours is all jacked up to begin with....
Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Guys, maybe I was a bit touchy (not my usual), but that phrase "that is what I wanted to hear' is a box in itself.
Running that big overlap on a stock stall is doing things backwards and by no means is it time to do so.
It is a really bad idea because the idle will pull on your brakes very hard and you could endenger yourself as well.
Running that big overlap on a stock stall is doing things backwards and by no means is it time to do so.
It is a really bad idea because the idle will pull on your brakes very hard and you could endenger yourself as well.
Joe.
Originally Posted by GT Griller
Question was : will the car run with a stock stall and an MS4
and the answer is : yes...that should be the end of the thread.
and the answer is : yes...that should be the end of the thread.
Originally Posted by orangeapeel
Would you really want to? No.
anythings possibble it can be done here is an exampleclick here
I personaly wouldnt advise this ...ive got a buddie thatjust done the same thing in a sbc setup it was a baby 224 cam...he lost .6 at the track were the truck was so sluggish off the line.....
I personaly wouldnt advise this ...ive got a buddie thatjust done the same thing in a sbc setup it was a baby 224 cam...he lost .6 at the track were the truck was so sluggish off the line.....
I apoligize for being a little shitty in the previous posts... I just get tons of guys wanting to put parts in their car thats not going to improve a thing... the vast majority will make it even slower as stated before... I didnt mean to call you out or anything like that, but making an MS4 run/drive/act properly in an auto car you HAVE to have a stall converter... thats just a fact. My setup isnt perfected yet either so I shouldnt have opened my mouth I guess.... but I do believe its getting pretty nailed down bit by bit. Dont let the user title fool you LOL... thats not what she runs 
again, sorry for the 'tude before... I like to come here to help and I wasnt being helpful at all...
again, sorry for the 'tude before... I like to come here to help and I wasnt being helpful at all... Last edited by silver-mod-o; Jul 30, 2007 at 09:47 AM.
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Originally Posted by silver-mod-o
I apoligize for being a little shitty in the previous posts... I just get tons of guys wanting to put parts in their car thats not going to improve a thing... the vast majority will make it even slower as stated before... I didnt mean to call you out or anything like that, but making an MS4 run/drive/act properly in an auto car you HAVE to have a stall converter... thats just a fact. My setup isnt perfected yet either so I shouldnt have opened my mouth I guess.... but I do believe its getting pretty nailed down bit by bit. Dont let the user title fool you LOL... thats not what she runs again, sorry for the 'tude before... I like to come here to help myself and I wasnt being helpful at all...
again, sorry for the 'tude before... I like to come here to help myself and I wasnt being helpful at all...Joe.
Originally Posted by N4cer
A stock car with stall runs 7.6's? With a normal, everyday guy driving? That's impressive. Best I got on street tires with heads/cam was 7.9 in my M6. You sure you're talking REAL numbers and not internet numbers?
