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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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Ok heres the deal. im a collage student, so im not rich . Im getting an Lq9 so i can build me another motor for the t/a. what i want to know is, is it worth it to bore it .030 over for the 6 extra c.i.'s or not. im looking for about 450 N/A rwhp.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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i doubt it, any gain would be negligible and the cost to have it machined wouldn't even be close to worth it
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you can get that with the right combo of parts and tune from a stock bottom end LS1. I'm gonna have to say no to either.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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you can get that with the right combo of parts and tune from a stock bottom end LS1. I'm gonna have to say no to either.
but with added inches i can make it easier, and have a more streetable motor. with potential for more power in the future.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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well it sounds like you need to leave it a 402 and go the l92/76 route unless you find a better deal on a 408 rotating assembly.
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ive spent 1800 on my bottom end so if thats too much for you, time to look elsewhere. i'm also a college student
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you can get that with the right combo of parts and tune from a stock bottom end LS1. I'm gonna have to say no to either.
450 from a 346ci and 450 from a 402/408ci are alot different.

i think i would go with the bigger cubes
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450 from a 346ci and 450 from a 402/408ci are alot different.

i think i would go with the bigger cubes
no doubt some setups i've seen are making gobs of torque at 3k well over a built 346's peak lol
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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would an LS7 crank be a good idea? or should i just save and get an aftermarket one?
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Old Oct 5, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by silverbandit0996
Im getting an Lq9 so i can build me another motor for the t/a. what i want to know is, is it worth it to bore it .030 over for the 6 extra c.i.'s or not. im looking for about 450 N/A rwhp.
OK, is the block new or used? The reason to bore .030 is to give you a new perfectly round cylinder to install your new pistons and rings. I am not sure if GM uses tq plates when they hone the cast iron blocks or not, if not I would suggest getting it bored and honed for that reason alone. If they do and it has a fresh bore, then leave it the standard bore if you can get aftermarket pistons in standard bore size. As for the money, getting a block bored and honed is not that much of an expense, the trick will be finding a shop that takes pride in their work and has a TQ plate for the new LSX blocks. I would not expect the bore and hone with plate and fine finish to be over $200.00-$250.00.
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would an LS7 crank be a good idea? or should i just save and get an aftermarket one?
And no on the LS7 crank... just get an aftermarket one. My understanding is the LS7 cranks will not work with a conventional oil pump.
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oh alright gotcha. i was wondering why nobody used them.
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Won't make ten cents worth of difference. Any engine builder is gonna bore the block anyway. Pistons will cost the same as well. Either should cost the same.
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