ws6kid

calm down man. I agree with you about the stock programming.

MOBE

If I didn't know you, and the mad **** you like to talk (especially about my car for whatever reason), I would take no offense. Your very first post was in direct response to me saying that the cam was drive able with stock programing. However, if you re-read that post, the point I was making was that the ICL # makes that cam as drive able as it is. I never said it was perfect and tuning was not required.

Yes, I did say it didn't like hot starts. But I never said it was terrible. It took about 2 second to settle into idle on a hot start. So...

Other than riding in a car with one, you have no experience with this cam. Why would anyone take your opinion on the matter?

WTF!?

Just who's sack, exactly, am I riding?

finalymodded

The reason that this is not a good comparison is because you didn't replicate the experiment. Get more cars with dyno graphs with the EXACT same mods and repeat the runs, 1 run is not enough to claim equality. you should report conclusively when comparing 2 cams. Unless your point is to cause a flame war.
btw: if you made more runs with the same cars it would NOT be replication, it would be definitive of pseudo-replication and would be invalid for a True comparison,

All this said I feel like "this is a great base for a potentially great thread"


disclaimer:
I have no opinion whatsoever for either of these cams I do not care which is better or produces what or even the price of either. and claim no responsibility for my own actions and words here in this post

minivette

ok, MOBE... don't try to single me out as being the only one who ribs you about your car. We all give you a hard time because it gets you all riled up (this thread is a perfect example).

My first response was not directed towards what you said at all. It was my opinion on the G5X2 with stock programming. It was an opinion formed by riding in your car. But I would have stated exactly what I said if anyone had a question on the drivability of the G5X2 on stock programming. BTW-I don't even know wtf an ICL is, so how would I comment on it??

My opinion was based on my impressions of a G5X2 on stock programming. No one "needs" to take my opinion. I was merely offering it as my observations of that cam on stock programming.

Again, I never mentioned you or your car until you bashed me. You can stop with the personal attacks.

If you want, give me a call and we can discuss this in a civil manner. Otherwise, this is the last I am going to say regarding this subject.

MOBE

Personally, I don't think that is even a good comparison either. If you are going to compare 2 or more of anything, it needs to be done in the exact same form and environment. There are just too many variables, especially when comparing 2 different cars. You have to have the same conditions, period (ie. same car with the same mods), to have conclusive results.

Thanks for getting back on topic though.

Magnus

iTrader: (4)

Ok.. so did the 230/230 car have a TB over the G5X-2 car? Can we clear up the differences?

Even so, the results may not be a PERFECT comparison, they can be used as a very good comparison. Same year cars, both tuned, both with identical mods.. good comparison in my book.

Hitman#1

iTrader: (1)

I don't know or care about the rest, but in addition to the G5X2 curve being a little smoother, I know it will be the better cam on N2O. And that's good enough for me.

ws6kid

Buyokasha! RESPECT!

mobius

yes it should be better for n2o which is a good thing
but i will probably go with the 230/230 when the time comes or the comp grind close to the x2 230/237 i think. lou charges to much... i heard a x2 in an auto on the power tour and have to say it rocked

Chicago Z06

i have to chime in a little on this thread... the G5x2 on 112 is a very choppy cam as is mine which is on a 114.. with STOCK 02 Z06 programming the car ran fine after the idle was re learned.. even though a vette would be different than an F body here.. after tuning the car is VERY drivable.. I DRIVE mine daily 50 miles.. in traffic on hiway etc.. NO issus with surging startup either hot or cold.. other than the idle you would never know the cam is that big.. even my wife drvies the car!!

the bottom line is whichever route YOU want to go that is your decision.. weather that be price drven or if your loyal to a certain shop, head porter etc..