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Old 07-11-2003, 02:58 PM
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I still have the stock rev limit at 6200, but I think tonight I'll move it up to 6700. At 6000 rpm it's pullin' like a scalded dog; it want's another 500 rpm I think.

Mine is idling great at 800 with the stock PCM tuning, love that lope! I don't know how it will go over at emissions test time though; too obvious there is an illegal cam in there. May have to bump it up to 950.

Oh and BTW, still no SES lights!!
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I still have the stock rev limit at 6200, but I think tonight I'll move it up to 6700. At 6000 rpm it's pullin' like a scalded dog; it want's another 500 rpm I think.

Mine is idling great at 800 with the stock PCM tuning, love that lope! I don't know how it will go over at emissions test time though; too obvious there is an illegal cam in there. May have to bump it up to 950.

Oh and BTW, still no SES lights!!
Your lucky, mine would stall at idle.
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If possible post a wav file of the lope...
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mine is nice and quiet ive got 0w40 mobil 1 I do have to let it warm up a few minutes when cold.
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If possible post a wav file of the lope...
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If possible post a wav file of the lope...
This isn't my car, but same cam and sounds about the same, except mine has more lope because I still have the stock idle speed. The part right at the end after the rev sounds the most like mine.

http://members.***.net/mpowerede30_2...r_catback.mpeg
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Here's mine

224/224 114
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Those sound very nice; hope mine sounds similar--without the singer hopefully... good job Cal.

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Well just bumped up the idle to 950 and the rev limit to 6700 rpm tonight, then went for a long test ride logging the whole thing with EFILive5. I compared this log file with one I made before the cam install, and every thing is still pretty much the same! LTFT's a little negative and O2's 890 mv @ WOT. Idle is a bit smoother but still has the lope, just a faster lope. And it effortlessly revs over 6200 rpm now. Man I love this cam! Only issue is a slight but annoying "cruise control" effect.
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cruise control effect?
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Yes; the RPM's tend to stay high up there when decelerating. You can also leave your foot off the gas driving around and the car will 'cruise' at 2K or so. Also affects the brakes sometimes; I'm still chasing that down and not having much luck.

Congrats Cal, the cam is awesome! I have my 112 at 6800 redline, Harlan shift-light at 6600.
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OK just got the problem fixed . . . I verified the PCM was causing it by unplugging the IAC, and sure enough, worked great. So I plugged it back in and edited the "P/N Airflow Decay" and the "Airflow Decay in Gear" to the max values allowed by LS1edit. Problem fixed! Now I can take my foot off the gas and actually slow down!
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Max values? I would think you would lower them. Hmmm..
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No because it's the rate of airflow decay, or how many grams/second of airflow the PCM is alowing the airflow to be reduced by when you close the throttle.
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What did you multiply the table by?
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I used the "Fill Value" rather than the "Mult %" option. I just picked a large value to fill the whole table with, but LS1edit automaticaly inserted a value that matched the largest already on the table. This was 1.0000 gms/sec for the P/N and 0.0195 gms/sec for "in gear." I would like to have put even larger values, because I can still tell a difference between having the IAC plugged in and not plugged in; there is also a delay before the decay even starts . Since it doesn't throw any codes unplugged, I'm thinking about adding my own circuit hardware to disable the damn thing once the engine is warmed up. I guess a simple toggle switch would do the trick also. It is a lot better now that I edited it; before the rpm would just hang at 2000rpm and not come down at all.
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Techedge is shipping their new wbo2 wideband. I ordered one. Option of 2 sensors, total package about $430 including the digital display to mount on the dash....

http://wbo2.com
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No because it's the rate of airflow decay, or how many grams/second of airflow the PCM is alowing the airflow to be reduced by when you close the throttle.
No wonder. Thanks
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Cal,

Great job! Did you have any issues with braking prior to fixing the cruise effect? Thanks, I appreciate any input.
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Thanks! It's great to have my car working right again; also just added 5 degrees of timing at 1200rpm and below to help smooth out the idle. Not sure what you mean by braking issues; never had a vacuum problem, but I did have to use my brakes a lot more than normal to get it to slow down. Now I can just take my foot off the gas.


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