Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

TR224 -114 initial impressions!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 03:46 PM
  #1  
Cal's Avatar
Cal
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,691
Likes: 3
From: Northern Utah
Default TR224 -114 initial impressions!

Well just got through putting my car back together after the install . . . and all I can say is WOW this cam is great! Exactly what I'd hoped it would be, with far fewer issues than expected! After reading all the posts about rough idle, lope, dieing out, surging, hot start problems, valve train noise, low oil presure and miss-fire SES lights, I was prepared for the worst. I have none of these problems! Zero tuning and the thing idles great, starts well hot or cold, never dies with A/C on or off, no SES lights and no "sewing machine" sound! Stock-like driveability and off idle torque; I can even bog the engine down to 1100 rpm with no surging or bucking. Pulls hard to 4000 rpm; tomorrow after the springs have had overnight to cool I'll take the r's up to see what it really can do. THANKS Thunder Racing for a killer street cam!
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 03:48 PM
  #2  
98TAauto's Avatar
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,316
Likes: 0
From: Warsaw, Va
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

dont jinx yourself.. i didnt get some of those issues till the next day

glad you like the cam
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 03:54 PM
  #3  
CAT3's Avatar
Restricted User
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 7,603
Likes: 0
From: Sierra Vista, AZ
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

I got all those issues and then some Some day i will get it tuned, and the world will be bright and sunshiny.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 04:48 PM
  #4  
SouthFL.02.SS's Avatar
!LS1 11 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 7,133
Likes: 2
From: Miami
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

Excellent.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 04:57 PM
  #5  
2xLS1's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,649
Likes: 9
From: Warr Acres, OK
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

I got all those issues and then some Some day i will get it tuned, and the world will be bright and sunshiny.
That's the difference between camming an A4 and a M6.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 05:01 PM
  #6  
Brian2001SS's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 2
From: western NC
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

NO SEWING MACHINE SOUND?????

I do indeed have that problem with my TR224/114. But like you said, it is a killer cam and SO SLEEPER LIKE. My SES light does come on if I let it idle to long when cold, but when my wife drives it, it goes off. Go figure.

I put down 390 at the wheels with asp pulley and TTS headers hitting the limiter at 6250rpm. Tuning will help us both. Idle even smoother and be able to rev it up. I feel this cam may be the best overall cam on the market. A 112 just adds to the headaches in my opinion.

Enjoy and keep me posted when you get it dynoed Cal. My torque curve was pretty flat and should be more of a rainbow. Let me know if yours is the same.

God, I love this cam!
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 05:13 PM
  #7  
98TAauto's Avatar
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,316
Likes: 0
From: Warsaw, Va
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

mine sounds like its a tap dancer party under the valve covers LMAO
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 05:23 PM
  #8  
jaywoo's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 281
Likes: 1
From: Sherwood, AR
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

Mine is a little noisy also. Surges with the AC on when you first start it up, but once it warms up it's fine. I bumped the idle up to 900rpms with the AC on, though. I'm thinking of drilling the TB just a tad, to see if that will help it out some. I need a couple of hours on a dyno.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 05:43 PM
  #9  
Cal's Avatar
Cal
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,691
Likes: 3
From: Northern Utah
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

I was hoping for low valve train noise, but this is as quiet as stock! Must be the Yella Terra's and 5/8 turn of preload. I've got EFILive5 and LS1edit so I'll be doing my own tuning, but I sure wish I had a wideband O2; I'm looking for one I can afford . . .
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:05 PM
  #10  
Cal's Avatar
Cal
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,691
Likes: 3
From: Northern Utah
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

mine sounds like its a tap dancer party under the valve covers LMAO
My '67 Firebird sounded like that with it's solid lifter cam, and it also shook like Catherine Hepburn in a paint-mixer! I have a little engine shake with the TR224 but pretty minor really.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:14 PM
  #11  
CAT3's Avatar
Restricted User
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 7,603
Likes: 0
From: Sierra Vista, AZ
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

Oh God do I need tuning now!
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:17 PM
  #12  
RICE ETR's Avatar
Turbo Addict
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,128
Likes: 1
From: Virginia
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

I just installed a TR cam.... and i love it!

Yea i got some new valvetrain noises... but it idles better, doesn't surge and makes noticeably more torque down low as well as more hp up top than the hotcam i had in it.

Plus it's a little more turbo friendly than the hotcam
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:20 PM
  #13  
RICE ETR's Avatar
Turbo Addict
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,128
Likes: 1
From: Virginia
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

oh... and i know in my mustang, thicker oil really cut down the valvetrain noise.... but i know thick oil isn't good for the Ls1....could i run 10w-40?
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 06:54 PM
  #14  
Cal's Avatar
Cal
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,691
Likes: 3
From: Northern Utah
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

Yeah I'm sure you can; I run 10W-30 Mobile 1 in mine.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 07:01 PM
  #15  
DaleMX's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,078
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, Georgia!
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

Thats good to hear Cal. Give us an update after the springs are heat cycled and you can rev it up a bit.
Reply
Old Jul 10, 2003 | 09:28 PM
  #16  
Cal's Avatar
Cal
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,691
Likes: 3
From: Northern Utah
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

OK Dale I should know tomorrow. I'm going to log a baseline with EFILive5 to start with. I already have one on my hard drive for the stock engine. Hey I've been meaning to ask, is that a Cobra in your aviatar? Are you putting an LS1 in a Cobra Kit-Car?
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2003 | 10:13 AM
  #17  
02 'Hawk's Avatar
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 489
Likes: 0
From: Out of Texas, into Tucson, AZ
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

Right on Cal, good to read your post. Mine will be going in mid-august. Tuning the next day, maybe same day if we get install done in time.

I'm going to try and get my OEM D/D repaired and SOMEHOW put it in the car and take it with me for install--along with the headers/Y pipe (should be a full car). With the ORY, I can't do the LM and the D/D should sound nice. just have to repair a few tears i put in the pipe at the ends/joins

Chris
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2003 | 11:23 AM
  #18  
Cal's Avatar
Cal
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,691
Likes: 3
From: Northern Utah
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

OK the springs have been heat cycled and allowed to cool overnight, so I hit my favorite quarter-mile on-ramp on the way to work this morning . . . All I can say is "Oh my God, hang on!!" It revs a lot quicker now; goes from 4500 rpm to the stock rev limiter at 6200 rpm in what seems like a microsecond . . . and this is without tuning! No real quantitative results, but the ole butt-o-meter is sure impressed!
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2003 | 11:43 AM
  #19  
SSactionLs1's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,255
Likes: 0
From: nor cal (ripon)
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

thats tight...get us some tach vids eh
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2003 | 12:52 PM
  #20  
Ed Blown Vert's Avatar
11 Second Club
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,066
Likes: 0
From: Sunny San Diego
Default Re: TR224 -114 initial impressions!

Mine is a little noisy also. Surges with the AC on when you first start it up, but once it warms up it's fine. I bumped the idle up to 900rpms with the AC on, though. I'm thinking of drilling the TB just a tad, to see if that will help it out some. I need a couple of hours on a dyno.
I also got that sewing machine noise. But it runs fine up to 6300. And I was able to get my idle @ 750.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:06 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE