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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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I am about to do the work on the Lifter tray's and I need to know where exactly do I put the holes on and How big are they supposed to be??

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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Theyre on the side flat spot. Picture how the tray sits in the block, and where the oil would pool up. Drill the hole where it would help the oil drain. Personally I decided not to drill them. I dont plan on extended bouts of ultra high rpms or extended high G forces. Id rather have all the rigidity I can get in controlling those lifters should I ever get any valve float.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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^ thanks bud, I've been reading more about this on this forum and "THINK" I am ready to do this! HAHA
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I'm with GuitsBoy, I did not do it when I did the heads. There is a lot of talk on weather or not that is a good thing to do.

As far as the hole, 3/8" and on the side of the lifter tray. Put a block of wood between the tray so you do not break it and make sure you clean it out well.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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Horsepower TV did it on project LSGUN. you can probably look it up on their web site or powerblock.com.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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I didn't do it when I swapped my heads either. too many variables if you ask me. Im not running the motor at 6300 rpm for 20 minutes at a time. And i think I will live if i lose a few HP by keep some oil on the lifters...
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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They did it to avoid oil starvation, not to increase hp. AutoX racing it may be something to think about, but just too many variables to me.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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The best way I think to do it is drill a small hole, then use a stepped drill bit to get to your 3/8 or 1/2. It won't crack the plastic that way.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/406786-drilling-holes-your-lifter-retainers.html
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dont you think gm would have done this if it were necessary? the trays are only going to hold so much oil. if its that big of a deal why not just add more oil to the motor? There must be a reason they didnt put holes in them? maybe to protect the lifters?
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Originally Posted by got-a-ls1
dont you think gm would have done this if it were necessary? the trays are only going to hold so much oil. if its that big of a deal why not just add more oil to the motor? There must be a reason they didnt put holes in them? maybe to protect the lifters?
there are always improvments made to the factory design. I can't think of one motor that was perfect from the factory. Just like the ls1 pcv system, ls1 oil pumps, etc
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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your right about improvements. But is modifying something like this really an improvement? Gm is pretty good about fixing problems. Like the early oil pump problems and the ls1 pcv system.... I think its just a fix to a problem that really doesnt exist? But hey if it makes someone feel better by all means do it!

gm spent millions of dollars on the research and development of these engines. I dont think leaving the holes out was a mistake
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Originally Posted by got-a-ls1
your right about improvements. But is modifying something like this really an improvement? Gm is pretty good about fixing problems. Like the early oil pump problems and the ls1 pcv system.... I think its just a fix to a problem that really doesnt exist? But hey if it makes someone feel better by all means do it!

gm spent millions of dollars on the research and development of these engines. I dont think leaving the holes out was a mistake
I think you're missing the whole point of this modification. I don't know that it will provide any benefit to a daily driven vehicle that rarely sees the upper rpm range or occasional WOT. However for a vehicle that spends a fair amount of time at WOT in the upper rpm range it allows the oil to drain back faster. Even if you drag race this is a benefit. If you really want to debate the merits of this mod, contact Wheel to Wheel (sponsor here) who I believe created it after experiencing oil starvation in some road racing situations. FWIW - They work directly with GM on a regular basis.
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Originally Posted by stevied916
Agree ^^^^ Search is your friend. The holes should by 1/2" in diameter. The thread above has a link to a thread I posted on this exact subject.
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This car will see the track occasionally, and I do think if GM made this engine strictly for road/drag racing, that there would probably be holes on the tray. Ofcourse thats just me thinking.
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Originally Posted by got-a-ls1
dont you think gm would have done this if it were necessary?
Like fixing the weak 10 bolt rears
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Originally Posted by got-a-ls1
your right about improvements. But is modifying something like this really an improvement? Gm is pretty good about fixing problems. Like the early oil pump problems and the ls1 pcv system.... I think its just a fix to a problem that really doesnt exist? But hey if it makes someone feel better by all means do it!

gm spent millions of dollars on the research and development of these engines. I dont think leaving the holes out was a mistake
There are many things that are NOT done during design and engineering because they are outside of the current design considerations of the the product.

With the fact that this modification is only advantageous in racing and extended high rpm situations, it's no surprise these holes are not there from the factory.
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