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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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I have a 2000ss m6 with stage1.5 tea 5.3 heads mti c2 cam 224 224 581 581 112 lsa hooker coated long tubes,3in x pipe and bullets,mas ends,lid,metco lca,slp subframes no pullies or ported throttle body and stock rear gears 3:42.The car only dynoed 399.3 hp and 385 tq tuned by brent at tea with ls1 edit.we worked all day and that is all we could squeeze out of it.I did not degree in the cam it was installed dot to dot.A new set of comp r lifters went in with heads no knock retard,total timing was 28. we even put in a set of plugs.cam was supposed to have 4 degrees of timing ground in it.please help!!!! sorry i forgot to include the ls6 intake oh and 1 mor thing spec stg 3 clutch with ls6 slave
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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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Did you install a LS6 intake? I'm sure the LS1 intake is killing those heads.
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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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sorry gomer i forgot to include that thank you
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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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Go run the car and see how you do. If you run around 120mph everything is fine. Dynos are tuning tools only good for comparing tuning changes on the same car on the same day.

Your ET and especially mph, raceweight, gearing, and weather will be a better indication of your power levels.

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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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the car ran a 12.5 at 117 before the heads and put down 375hp and 363tq. Also i had to put the 3:42 back in the car before the trip to kentucky because the 3:73 broke in some spirrited driving so how would the 3:42 effect et and mph.12.5 was run on 315 35 17 dunlop sp 8000 with a 2.0 60 ft
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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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Looks like you got all the mods, ls6 intake, lt's with duals and x pipe, good tuning. I know people get mad when I say this but I think thats all you can expect out of the cnc tea heads, around 400 rwhp is not bad, but I can understand you wanted to pick up more than 20 hp. The only thing I would suggest is to have the car dyno'd on the same dyno that you pulled 375 before. did you have 373's in the car when you did the 375 pull. Your MPH is great 117 before heads, maybe run it see what it picks up
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Old Jul 27, 2003 | 11:23 PM
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Yea i had the 3:73 on the 375 pull,and that dyno was a mobile dyno that came down for a mustang event figures huh??
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 12:01 AM
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Well, there goes that idea, I would go to the track and get some runs in, hopefully you pick up some et and mph. also try another dyno, you should have pulled some more going back to the 342's from 373's. good luck, got my fingers crossed for ya
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 04:39 PM
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well i went to a super flow dyno today and dynoed 400 and 378 tq. doesnt a superflow dyno like a mustang dyno
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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Chevy,

All the basic stuff like new fuel filter, clean air filter, fresh plugs etc?

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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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99 black. I put a new fuel filter in about 4000 miles ago we took the air filter out me and brent installed new autolite 104 plugs it picked me up 4 hp
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 11:01 PM
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I was told the superflow dyno reads higher than or close to a dynojet, as long as the superflow dyno is sae corrected it should be close to the dynojet
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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Your #'s look decent to me, don't get caught up in the numbers game.....
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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I don't understand why your car is dynoing so low. It seems like you have all of the goodies. I personally stayed with 5.7 liter heads and had ESP port and polish them. Between that and their cam, long tube headers and the basic intake goodies. I put 432 horsepower to the ground and that is going through a Mosier 12 bolt with 4:10 gears. If I had left the OEM 7.5" rear end with 3:42 I'm sure the numbers would have read a good 15 more horse. Have you considered checking your rings? Is there any blow-by that could be killing your compression? I am not sure as to what years were affected, but I know blow by was a problem with LS1's due to expansion rings that didn't perform after the engine heated up.
Any way I hope this helps
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 12:50 AM
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B-Man, he has a 224 cam, you cant expect him to make 447 with a 224 cam. You sound like a chear leader with your second post jumping into threads on how good your esp heads and cam are. esp is the same shop that claimed 431 cam only with there secret cam, by the way your torque sucks. stay out of posts if your going to cheerlead and gloat about your boyfriends shop and let people help this guy. your wasting our time and your wasting your time when you can be giving the guys at the shop a good B.J.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:01 AM
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I am trying not to get caught up in the # game but man it is so frustrating 2 different dynos say the same thing. I am putting in my new cam will finish it tomarrow specs are 591in 601ex 230in 236ex on a 110.hope this cam will do it.I dont think the bottom end has any blow by it only has 27000 miles.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 10:09 AM
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I am trying not to get caught up in the # game but man it is so frustrating 2 different dynos say the same thing. I am putting in my new cam will finish it tomarrow specs are 591in 601ex 230in 236ex on a 110.hope this cam will do it.I dont think the bottom end has any blow by it only has 27000 miles.
399rwhp isn't that bad, with a tb, pulley, and cutout you would probably close to 410rwhp with a pretty modest cam...
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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B-Man, he has a 224 cam, you cant expect him to make 447 with a 224 cam. You sound like a chear leader with your second post jumping into threads on how good your esp heads and cam are. esp is the same shop that claimed 431 cam only with there secret cam, by the way your torque sucks. stay out of posts if your going to cheerlead and gloat about your boyfriends shop and let people help this guy. your wasting our time and your wasting your time when you can be giving the guys at the shop a good B.J.
I must say, You have your panties in a bunch! Somthing must have crawled up your *** and kicked!! I think i see a little jelos bone in your body, The man wasnt braggin, he put in his suggestion being blow by, It was a common problem. While he was at it he stated that the other problem could be the fact he had 5.3 l heads, They somtimes dont flow as well wich would eqall less power. As for the ESP stuff, dont believe it if you dont want, I have seen it with my own eyes however and do believe it. Besides, That is what this forum is all about, Brag about what you got, and whos is beter and faster, I mean with out this how would you know what heads make power, who's cam makes power ect ect.
I think B man has a little bragging rights seeing as his full exhaust, cats, and all. moser 12 bolt where in place and he was over 430 rwhp, That is a high number for ls1 heads. I havent seen many cars make that power with the same mods. It is also very drivable and is His daily driver. I know some have but most are around 400-420rwhp. As for the issue that this post is about. I would have to say, Most likly it is the cam, That cam isnt the best cam to run with those heads, The only thing I see with the cam your looking at is that it might loose streetability. It might be a hard cam to tune. Not to plug but you might want to call ESP and get some suggestions from them, They might suprise you a bit.

I do also find it funny that this panty waist na14 throws in this "bman with his second post" You regestered around the same time as him, Just because he didnt post 68 times in a couple days doesnt mean he doesnt know what he's talking about. So take it easy!!
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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I have basicaly your same setup with a 2001 Vette and got 414 rwhp. Same cam TEA 1.5 heads and longtubes as well as everybolt on there is. I am wandering if the 224 cam is worth it. I am considering swaping cams.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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I have basicaly your same setup with a 2001 Vette and got 414 rwhp. Same cam TEA 1.5 heads and longtubes as well as everybolt on there is. I am wandering if the 224 cam is worth it. I am considering swaping cams.
I would, I think the 224 cam was good for a while, and it proved itself. But now there are bigger and better cams that can make more power!! Go for it.
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