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Old May 11, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Hi , I am perplexed beween those 2 ? what is the good setup ? and good for nitrous and more RWHP and TQ ?
Patriot LS6 Stage 2 59 cc and G5X3 112 LSA
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You're going to get more torque with the heads/cam especially with 59cc chambers. Increasing the compression alone will do that.
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You're going to get more torque with the heads/cam especially with 59cc chambers. Increasing the compression alone will do that.
how much the maximize can i shoot nitrous with the 59cc patriot ?
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No real maximum limit, but bigger than 150hp nitrous jets, you're going to want a cam designed more for nitrous use. It all depends on how you want to use the car, and how often you want to spray it. Stock bottom end? I wouldn't go any higher than a 150 anyway on a heads/cam car. Some have pulled it off but it's dangerous. The higher cylinder pressure can collapse the ringlands.
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with G5X3 112 LSA ? yes stock bottom only i will install Diamond Pistons Forged Flat Top 0cc Valve Reliefs
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Originally Posted by PONTIAC SLP
with G5X3 112 LSA ? yes stock bottom only i will install Diamond Pistons Forged Flat Top 0cc Valve Reliefs
If you are going with forged pistons and have sufficient piston to valve clearance, get a few degrees more duration on the exhaust and up the shot to 250 or more.
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and how about TNT Force 1 (75-150HP) ?
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If you are going with forged pistons and have sufficient piston to valve clearance, get a few degrees more duration on the exhaust and up the shot to 250 or more.
i want only 75 to 150 its good for me
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You will be fine with a 150 wet, but just to be on the safe side i would add a fuel pump as well. And if your really up for nitrous, have a custom grind nitrous cam made around the heads you want to use.
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Originally Posted by 2000Hawk
You will be fine with a 150 wet, but just to be on the safe side i would add a fuel pump as well. And if your really up for nitrous, have a custom grind nitrous cam made around the heads you want to use.
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i bought that cam G5X3 112 ! its not good for nitrous ? and what fuel pump i need ?
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the g5x series of cams are great for anything under a 250 shot of nitrous.
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i did a racetronix set up, got it from the ws6store. so far so good. you said you`re gonna do pistons, right? i`d do rods at the same time if i were you
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I say if your going to spray over a 200 shot, then a cam thats made for nitrous (ex. large split in duration) will be needed. So if you really want the best setup talk to either PredZ or PatrickG to hook you up with a cam. Then buy some heads later on when you get the extra $$$.
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^ I agree with him ,either of those guys can spec you a cam that will run what your expecting. I got myself a Walboro 255, but i have heard good things about the Racetronix fuel set-ups.
Its not that its not good for nitrous, but its always a good option to have if you want to have a cam ground for nitrous if thats the route your going to take now and into the future. And im sure either of those guys can tell you what heads they recommend you get if your going with a custom spec'd cam.
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