Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

ms4+heads?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 9, 2008 | 06:28 PM
  #1  
35thz28camaro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
From: mobile, al
Default ms4+heads?

what heads can i run with the ms4 cam, without any piston to valve problems on a stock bottom end? what gain will i see from heads?
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2008 | 06:48 PM
  #2  
Paint_It_Black's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,044
Likes: 1
From: Chi-town West Burbs
Default

honest answer.. only heads with canted valves or recessed valves.. even stock heads don't really have sufficient ptv clearance with that cam.

and heads will gain you anywhere from 0 to 50+ hp.
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2008 | 08:30 PM
  #3  
venom ws7's Avatar
11 Second Club
20 Year Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 5,965
Likes: 1
From: EARTH
Default

Originally Posted by 35thz28camaro
what heads can i run with the ms4 cam, without any piston to valve problems on a stock bottom end? what gain will i see from heads?

PRC Stg 1 LS6 Heads from TSP awesome heads with great price no need to flycut and will work great with MS4.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 05:55 PM
  #4  
35thz28camaro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
From: mobile, al
Default

about how much off my ET can i gain with prc stg 1 heads?
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 06:18 PM
  #5  
PeewterSS4.8's Avatar
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by 35thz28camaro
what heads can i run with the ms4 cam, without any piston to valve problems on a stock bottom end? what gain will i see from heads?
I have an MS4 cam with stage 2.5 livernois heads and they work great
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:57 PM
  #6  
35thz28camaro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
From: mobile, al
Default

Originally Posted by PeewterSS4.8
I have an MS4 cam with stage 2.5 livernois heads and they work great
where did you get these heads, i never heard of them? did you have to fly cut your pistons?
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:25 AM
  #7  
LivernoisMotorsports's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,204
Likes: 1
From: Dearborn Heights, MI
Default

Our stage 2 heads can be found here

New GM 243 casting
5 axis CNC machined
Fully assembled
220cc Intake Runner
Intake Flow Rate 305 CFM
Exhaust Flow Rate 235 CFM
New 2.000 intake valves / 1.550 exhaust valves
GM valve seals
Super 7 locks
Livernois dual coil valve springs good to ~ .690 lift
Livernois titanium retainers
No core required

$1,399.00/pr.

Thank you

Regards,

Rick LeBlanc
Livernois Motorsports
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:53 AM
  #8  
Sales2@Texas-speed's Avatar
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,053
Likes: 7
From: Texas!
Default

We've got our Stage 1 (and Stage 2.5) LS6 heads on special currently. With the MS4, you will be limited to the Stage 1 (stock valve size) head unless you are going to flycut the pistons.

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=649&catid=40

The Stage 1 heads with the PRC dual spring kit installed are currently $1199.99 plus shipping on this sale! Let me know if we can help with your combo!
__________________


Largest Stocking Distributor of LS-x Engines / CHECK OUT OUR NEW WEBSITE!

COMP - FAST - PACESETTER - DIAMOND RACING - EAGLE SPECIALTY PRODUCTS - CALLIES - COMETIC GASKETS
RAM CLUTCHES - MOSER ENGINEERING - KOOK'S HEADERS - ARP - GM BOLTS AND GASKETS - MSD - NGK
POWERBOND - ASP - AND MORE!
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 02:10 PM
  #9  
c5_ls1_6spd's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 800
Likes: 0
Default

I LOVE my TSP stage 1 LS6 heads.
I run side by side with AFR headed C5s... I haven't ran a TFS headed C5 yet so I don't know about them.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:08 PM
  #10  
35thz28camaro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 66
Likes: 0
From: mobile, al
Default

Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
We've got our Stage 1 (and Stage 2.5) LS6 heads on special currently. With the MS4, you will be limited to the Stage 1 (stock valve size) head unless you are going to flycut the pistons.

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=649&catid=40

The Stage 1 heads with the PRC dual spring kit installed are currently $1199.99 plus shipping on this sale! Let me know if we can help with your combo!
do you'll sell bare castings of these heads? because i just installed prc dual valve springs on my stock heads.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:15 PM
  #11  
LS1C5Vette's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 836
Likes: 0
From: Oklahoma City
Default

Originally Posted by 35thz28camaro
do you'll sell bare castings of these heads? because i just installed prc dual valve springs on my stock heads.
They have the LS6 heads without the springs at the price above, I wonder if they can sell the 2.5 5.3l heads without springs??
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:21 AM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE