J-Rod

Read the next page. The final resolution was that they did recognize it was their issue, and they are replacing it with a C5R block at a reduced price.

99 Black Bird T/A

iTrader: (4)

...and if you still don't get that confirming email?

Bearcat Steve

[quote...and if you still don't get that confirming email?

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When I have a verbal discussion with someone and it needs to be acknowledged, I have found that the best way is to recap the conversation in writing (not email -- it's too easy to spoof email) and send it to them. I usually add something to the effect that "if this does not accurately reflect your recollection, please let me know as soon as possible. Otherwise, we will consider this memorandum as the definitive portrayal of our conversation."

It really neeeds to be done this way, otherwise some people just will not respond no matter what. Using this method, they have to respond to disagree. As they say, "silence is consent."

iateyourcat

Libel requires a falsehood. I can back up everything I've said with paperwork, emails, afidavits, and photographs.

iateyourcat

Terry seems to be taking a "head in the sand" approach. Clearly the resolution was available to anyone willing to read the entire post. This additude is so prevalent, it borders on establishing a precedent.

Terry Burger

iTrader: (4)

From dictionary.com:
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libel
\Li"bel\ (l[imac]"b[e^]l), n. [L. libellus a little book, pamphlet, libel, lampoon, dim. of liber the liber or inner bark of a tree; also (because the ancients wrote on this bark), paper, parchment, or a roll of any material used to write upon, and hence, a book or treatise: cf. F. libelle.] 1. A brief writing of any kind, esp. a declaration, bill, certificate, request, supplication, etc. [Obs.] --Chaucer.

A libel of forsaking [divorcement]. --Wyclif (Matt. v. 31).

2. Any defamatory writing; a lampoon; a satire.

3. (Law) A malicious publication expressed either in print or in writing, or by pictures, effigies, or other signs, tending to expose another to public hatred, contempt, or ridicule. Such publication is indictable at common law.

Note: The term, in a more extended sense, includes the publication of such writings, pictures, and the like, as are of a blasphemous, treasonable, seditious, or obscene character. These also are indictable at common law.
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I'm not exactly sure whether or not there has to be a falsehood for libel. Either way if the court were to rule in MMS' favor it would certainly prove your assertion that MMS is skirting their responsibility to you as false, thus you'd be wide open for a lawsuit, seeing as you've been flaming them on every website around (well documented). Personally I think you're being such a jackass about the whole thing I'd sue you just on principle, knowing you'd have to drag your self out here and retain council ($$$) to defend.

humanoidZ06

The comments I read qualify for a defamation of character case in California. A person with good representation could even pursue such a case against someone who posts that another person is "stupid", or stating that they can't read.

iateyourcat

Can you define "every website around?" Unless you define it as two web sites (two posts on one site and the rest here), I'd have to say your statement is libelous. Do you have representation yourself terry?

iateyourcat

It's pretty obvious how you interpret the statements of others so I'm not putting too much weight on your words.

For instance; this statement is true
But, the fact that I was advised of this after the engine dropped a sleeve (which is clear in the original statement) doesn't appear to factor into your account of the situation.

On the other hand; this statement is false
My mechanic and I both called MMS and spoke with management. Does this makes your statement libelous? Hmm.

Terry Burger

iTrader: (4)

I've seen posts about this topic on 3 out of 3 websites that MMS sponsors. Your statments appears to be intended to cause public rage against MMS, and I'm sure MMS can establish damages. I hope they won't sue you out of your house, although I have to admit I wouldn't loose sleep over it if they did.

If his statement was intended to expose you to public hatred, contempt, or ridicule, and you can prove significant damages, then absolutely! I have to admit I think you'll have a hard time provide those counts.

In a previous post you state you spoke to Al. Now you claim you spoke to management. It seems like your story changes around every post? I guess by next post you'll be claiming you spoke to Mike himself?

humanoidZ06

You are incredibly misinformed as to what constitutes defamation and libel. I suggest that you pick up a copy of West's Annotated California Codes and educate yourself. Since you've retained counsel, perhaps he/she can break down the concepts into words that are more easily understood. If your last statement is intended as a threat of legal action, I would like to see you try to deliver on it. You may want to be more mindful of your conduct. You never know who you are talking to in these forums.

When I originally read your story, I had sympathy for your situation. I thought you handled it very poorly, and were not entitled to everything you were asking for, but I was able to recognize with the unpleasantness the situation must have presented for you. Now, that sympathy has evolved to an understanding that this is just the world's way of paying you back for being who you are. If your conduct is even a slight reflection of your personality and how you handle business, you are destined to have a rough life.

humanoidZ06

He doesn't have a legal standing to sue. I have copies of threads that he created where he asked for opinions. An opinion is my interpretation of the situation. The fact that he doesn't agree with my opinion does not entitle him to legal remedy.

iateyourcat

I've posted on two. Admins can verify my IP.

If the truth elicits public outrage I can't help that.

Al's not management? Mike said he took Brad's job. Brad was "General Manager". My "story" hasn't changed. I can't help it if you don't understand.

iateyourcat

No, I was just pointing out that your statements regarding "what I have said" are false. False meaning untrue. Untrue meaning a lie.

As far as suing over something this silly, I'm pretty sure a judge would bitch slap anyone lawyer fool enough to waste his time with this.

iateyourcat

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99 Black Bird T/A

iTrader: (4)

Someone put this thread to rest.

BYBYC5

Black bird beat me to it, i was gonna say ENUFF BULL ****, he asked for opinions(SP?) and he has em, let he and MMS work it out.enuff is enuff, i ate yourcat has obviously gotten ahold of a bad kitten. there is nothing more positive can come out of this, i think you sould lock this post and the next one when it starts

Pro Stock John

iTrader: (34)

This thread is not a debate about warranties, two guys are squaring off in it and it's lost it's way.

Terry Burger

iTrader: (4)

iateyourcat, don't you think its a bit immature to publicly post private messages?

slick1851

AMS

Went way out of there way for there customers all the time, and are amazing with customer service..


They tuned my car, so when it was in for misc stuff the tuner felt the need to re adjust a few things on his own, AFCs can only do so much so he would always take a peak at my car to see how the tune was etc..


Honestly treat your customers good, and they will come back forever like me