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Old 07-13-2008, 10:33 PM
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I daily drive my car, bolt-ons and the MS4 on a 111 LSA and honestly, it drives damn near perfect. Sometimes I even wish I would have gone a little bit bigger. It pulls hard as hell up top, I don't think you'll be disappointed at all.
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If it's not your daily driver it will be fine. The converter will make the car feel lazy at all but full throttle, but when it is wide open it is gonna rip. I think you will be happy with the car as a weekend warrior,.but suggest you put 4.10 gears instead of 3.73's (it won't affect the stall).
Also, your ET is not affected by your reaction time. The timer doesn't start until the car moves and breaks the beams. Your reaction can be .000 or 1.500 and your ET will be the same.
Good luck with the install.
Old 07-13-2008, 11:43 PM
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Jimmy what kind of #'s did that car put down? That's a pretty strong setup you got going there.
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I put it on the dyno at the LSX shootout(dyno shootout) and it put down 435HP with an AFR of 15:1, but I only got one pull. I added 4% more fuel and it picked up 3 MPH my next pass down the track. My guess would be about 450-460 after richening it up. I need to get it dyno tuned before going back to Memphis this year, so I'll find out for sure then.
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MS4 110 lsa, STG 2.5 LS6 heads milled, 12:1 comp, 160 stat, comp R lifters, LS6 ported oil pump, rollmaster double roller, hooker 1-7/8 LT's, TSP X-pipe, 12-bolt, SPEC STG 3 +, B&M Pro ripper. Well i wish the power turned on sooner, but to tell you the truth beating 750HP wippled cobra and watching the boys talk amongst themselves in disbelief thinking i'm on the bottle before i show them every nook & cranny. pissed off inside about the 50,000 they spent when they could have bout a heads and cam LS1 that makes 475 without the 90/90 for 25,350
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Like everyone else says i'll say this from experience. The car will feel like a dog babying it around town. But with that stall and the ms4, when you floor that thing I hope you got some good tires or slicks cuz that thing is gonna pull like you wouldn't believe. If you cut a good '60 foot i could see you getting a mid 11 out of 'er. I don't see why not.
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ok thanks guys! i think i will like it after hearing opinions from people who actually have it. btw you guys have some really nice and pretty fast cars! but once again thanks for all the input and advise!
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whether or not you like it will depend totally on the tune.
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Originally Posted by 5.3LJimmy
it put down 435HP with an AFR of 15:1,.
Jesus that's lean. That's not healthy. I would say though with you gaining 3 mph the next pass your guestimate on power is pretty close. Nice ride man.
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Originally Posted by rocksws6
Jesus that's lean. That's not healthy. I would say though with you gaining 3 mph the next pass your guestimate on power is pretty close. Nice ride man.
Thanks. That was a mail order tune. I have lost all faith in mail order tuning after getting that dyno graph. The idle and drivablity where okay but as you see the WOT left a bit to be desired. I haven't raced the car since Memphis for this reason. I've been sidelining to get the money I need to get it ready for this year. Top priority is getting it on the dyno before running it again.
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Originally Posted by second_2_none
ok thanks guys! i think i will like it after hearing opinions from people who actually have it. btw you guys have some really nice and pretty fast cars! but once again thanks for all the input and advise!
Are you sure thats what you want though? One of my friends wish he would of went smaller and had something that made the power at lower RPMS. Just trying to find whats best for ya.
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yeah ive about a torquer cam w/ stage 2.5 5.3L heads, im pretty impressed with that set up or similar ones. but i really want the ms4 w/ stage 1.5 or even stage 1 ls6 heads and a 4k stall. i think that would be pretty nasty at the track.




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