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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 10:22 AM
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I could trade for this, i dont know what power gains i would see from this block and what he has mentioned. I would have to run my stock 99 heads on it and a TR 224/ 112 cam. I already have Headers, LS6 intake and other bolt ons. Would you do it? Could i run a 100 shot without fear?
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I have a 6.0 short block currently in my car has ls6 crank balanced and blueprinted offset and set clearences .030 arp bolts,federal mogul main clevite77 rod bearings.No cam,will sell for 2000 or trade for completly stock ls1 longblock 5.7l. Will come with qtp lt's 3inch ypipe all covers,new also oilpan and ls6 valley pan coversion,sphon solid motor mounts,lid and possible trade also for ram clutch setup for stock.So basically Im taken all my aftermarket parts and trading them back to stock, im trading it in.
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anyone ?
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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After market rods and pistons to go with the offset ground crank? What is the CI of the motor?
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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366 im guessing, i really am uneducated in engine build ups. I guess my question is, for what he has listed, would it be beneficial for me to trade my LS1 for this set up, just putting my stock 99 heads on the Iron 6.0, my TR Cam, LS6 intake and all the bolt ons. Would i gain a lot of TQ, lose HP? i dont know. Im still waiting on the guy to talk to me moer about it.
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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366 im guessing, i really am uneducated in engine build ups. I guess my question is, for what he has listed, would it be beneficial for me to trade my LS1 for this set up, just putting my stock 99 heads on the Iron 6.0, my TR Cam, LS6 intake and all the bolt ons. Would i gain a lot of TQ, lose HP? i dont know. Im still waiting on the guy to talk to me moer about it.
I wouldn't do it, unless you want to put in a good set of pistons and rods for a BIG shot of nitrous or turbo/blower motor.
Remember- the CI increase is minimal, and you'd be adding about 80lbs to the front of your car. Personally, I wouldn't do it. But if you intend on a hardcore FI setup- then it would be worth it.
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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6L block is 360 cubes stock,bored .030 its ?? cubes and then add offset crank.I do know a .040 overbore with a 3.822 offset crank is a 392 CI engine.
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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I just talked to the guy, he said its a 370 CU IN block, with a LS6 crank, stock LQ4 ( i think ) pistons, 400 miles on the block. Has the LS6 pvc ( i think again ) mod done, LS6 water pump, 160 tstat. Will be using my computer, My Headers and His spohn motor mounts. All i need is heads and its a fair swap. No money exchanged.
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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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nah.. I'd pass.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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If it were ME,I would pass also.You just dont know how well the motor ran other than what you were told.If it has stock pistons how would they work with an overbore of .030? Easy,they wont work,you need aftermarket pistons.If the crank offset is 3.711 that would add about 10 cubes but I dont think a stock rod would fit.It dont add up,save yourself a large headache and keep what you got.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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ok this is my motor im selling, not tryin to ad anything but here it goes, (offset) was a misprint. 366 is correct cubes. This motor with 5.3l heads hand done comp 918's milled .030 mti x1 cam, ran awhole lot stronger than my stock ls1 with ported heads ls6 cam springs and 150 dry n20 shot and showed in the 1/8th ran 8.2 at 92.5 with a bad trans no 4th gear 3.73 gears. Don't forget also I am installing his cam putting on his heads,doing all the work is usually pretty costly last time i checked. Also those motor mounts save a ton over stock. My car on the scales weighed with the new motor everything 3190 pounds with 1/2 tank of gas.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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Niles, just to let you know i had not checked up on this post since my post after our conversation. This is the first i have scene of the replies. I just dont know enough about engines to make a decission on this. Thats why i posted it before i ever even talked to you. Im still banging my head over this.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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Default Re: Is this a smart thing to do? Trade LS1 for 6.0 block?

The obvious problem i do see here is the stock pistons. The block would be great for nitrous but the pistons and rods as mentioned above, and as mentioned by a close and knowledgeble friend are the only downside. The offer is very generous indeed, someone with the dough for some pistons and rods should seriously look into this.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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What would a standard person daily driver need such pistons? or rods, your cam isnt near big enough for valve relifes, they are inverted dome factory any ways. With a 7000 rpm revlimit and a n20 cam 300 shot would be comfortable like it is. so say with nearly stock heads and that small cam and all of your mods and a 200 shot 100 shot is way wimpy lol lets stay small 600 rwhp through m6 and I gurantee it smokes your trans and decetigrates your rearend. just a thought.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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Default Re: Is this a smart thing to do? Trade LS1 for 6.0 block?

What would a standard person daily driver need such pistons? or rods, your cam isnt near big enough for valve relifes, they are inverted dome factory any ways. With a 7000 rpm revlimit and a n20 cam 300 shot would be comfortable like it is. so say with nearly stock heads and that small cam and all of your mods and a 200 shot 100 shot is way wimpy lol lets stay small 600 rwhp through m6 and I gurantee it smokes your trans and decetigrates your rearend. just a thought.
not surei understand this post, are you saying 300 shot would be ok as is? with forged pistons/rods maybe with stock stuff not a chance.
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Old Aug 30, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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Why is everone scared of the saying 250 or 300 shot. its not the shot that hurts you, but rather its bad tuning or timing with a n20 ground cam its safe. I wonder if it came from the movi fast and the furious(dude your lucky the 75 shot of nos didnt blow the welds on the intake) hahahaha. its a v8 I shot a 250 shot on a bone stock v6 firebird everyweekend for 20000 miles. and it never had any problems whatsoever. if its gonna pop on a 300 shot its gonna pop on a 100 shot just not as bad, you might get lucky you might not. Ive seen guys at the tracks melt there engines on a bad tuned 150 shot, and ive seen others running directport 350 shots all stock ls1 's no problem wonder why? Also your right a big shot of n20 is hard to tune in, you have to really keep an eye on plug color and jet accordingly. With a ls1 Im more worried about those rodbolts than anything, mine are arp cracked rod.
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