Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-10-2003, 06:55 PM
  #1  
7 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (11)
 
Phil99vette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Port Tobacco, MD
Posts: 8,758
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts

Default Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

How many people have made 445rwhp+ on an LS6 or LS1 block?
Phillip
Old 09-10-2003, 07:23 PM
  #2  
JPR
TECH Fanatic
 
JPR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,089
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

I turned 453 RWH SAE with my original LS1 block and turned 456 RWH SAE with the Z06 block, but I had a ring /piston slap issue with the original block and that was the reason for the block "upgrade?"


JP.
Old 09-10-2003, 11:32 PM
  #3  
TECH Apprentice
 
ne14a6t9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: bronx ny
Posts: 316
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

I hear that the ls6 block is worth more than 3 hp over the ls1, there has been a few posts about this and one has a link to a gm high tec article explaining better bay to bay breathing, why else do the 02 cars seem to dyno 15-20 hp higher than older cars, how do you explain all the 02 cars with cam only and bolt ons pulling 410-425 with stock heads
Old 09-10-2003, 11:38 PM
  #4  
JPR
TECH Fanatic
 
JPR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,089
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

I know why, but it's not the block and all the 2002 cars didn't come with Z06 blocks, at least the ones I have done cams on here anyway and there dynoing high too.

JP
Old 09-10-2003, 11:43 PM
  #5  
LSxGuy widda 9sec Mustang
iTrader: (12)
 
-Joseph-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Texas and Qatar
Posts: 3,043
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

I think the stock 01-02 heads have a little something to do with the good cam-only numbers. The block prob does help, but may show up better in something like a 382/383ci engine between the two blocks. Strokers will strain the crankcase breathing more than a stocker. Think of it like this, if there's xxx cubic inches of displacement above the pistons, then there is also the same xxx cubic inches being turbulent below the pistons also.
Old 09-11-2003, 12:38 AM
  #6  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (25)
 
2xLS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Warr Acres, OK
Posts: 5,649
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts

Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

I know why, but it's not the block

JP
And why is this some kind of secret that can't be divulged? Why not just say why?
Old 09-11-2003, 12:48 AM
  #7  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
The Dragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

The '02's got what GM calls "massaged" heads to deal with the piston slap issue (which really didn't help anyway). That's why there's a difference in power.

Only 25% of '02's received the LS6 block.

Old 09-11-2003, 01:31 AM
  #8  
TECH Fanatic
 
SSactionLs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: nor cal (ripon)
Posts: 1,255
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

since when do 02 cars dyno 20whp more?
Old 09-11-2003, 01:34 AM
  #9  
jmX
TECH Junkie
 
jmX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 3,604
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

02s got "massaged" heads? Wow, when did this info get released? Are the OEM castings changed? Do all 2003+ corvettes have these same heads? Anybody flow tested them?
Old 09-11-2003, 06:15 AM
  #10  
Staging Lane
 
VT_01_SS_ls6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

i have a 01 SS M6 with the LS6 block. i havent had the chance to get it on the dyno yet, but im running a 224/224 563 112 cam . im hoping for numbers close to 400 because the car is very strong. i have read that 10% of 01's had this block and it does seem to be some better hp numbers out of them for some reason .
Old 09-11-2003, 06:34 AM
  #11  
jfm
10 Second Club
iTrader: (4)
 
jfm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: New to South Carolina
Posts: 910
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

When did GM start sending out LS6 intake manifolds as a stock item?I would think the combo of LS6 block and manifold has to worth something be it stock or cam only.
Old 09-11-2003, 07:04 AM
  #12  
Staging Lane
 
VT_01_SS_ls6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

in 01.. that was the first year for the LS6 intake. all f-body's had the LS6 intake, just a lucky few got the block.
Old 09-11-2003, 08:31 AM
  #13  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (15)
 
LOnSLO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Gainesville, GA
Posts: 2,538
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

Just to compare I have an LS6 block. Good friend of mine has a 2002 with the LS1 block. His car pulled 410rwhp cam only with headers. My car pulled 403rwhp with a similar cam and headers. I honestly don't think there is one bit of difference power wise. His M6 was running 12.4s with just headers and a lid FWIW.
Old 09-11-2003, 09:17 AM
  #14  
Staging Lane
 
VT_01_SS_ls6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

what cam and header set up did you have to see those numbers....??????
Old 09-11-2003, 10:52 PM
  #15  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
The Dragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Re: Any correlation between 450rwhp and LS6 blocks?

ls6 block . . . i have read that 10% of 01's had this block . . .
Yup Just not mine




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:14 PM.