Fiber Tuned Intake Review with pictures
01-09-2009, 04:23 PM
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Comparing MAP vaules between different style manifolds is not a valid comparison. The location of the MAP and surounding geometry will have a measurable difference in how the sensor reads. Plus its measuring plenum pressure, which is very much driven by the TB & everything forward, as opposed to the plenum design.
Yes, the runners are interchangable with some screws and RTV. Here is a pic of them
Our objective of this manifold was to build a safe manifold to protect agaist Nitrous backfires, be boost ready, fit uner the stock hood, and offer interchangeable runners for different combo's. The 4" runner is a short runner and it was the first one we made because we wanted to start with a top end manifold. Because of the large inlet radius and gentle draft angle, the carbon runners do bench-flow very well. So for cars restricted by flow, this is a great choice. I tested it on my car only, and it performed as expected, I lost low-end and gained top end. (comparing it to a L76, not a FAST) That is the only car I have dyno'd with this manifold to date.
That being said, the general concensus, myself included, was that 4" is short, but for cars like mine (402 ci) and Carlos's car, that the flow numbers would take over up top, like it did with my GTO. .But different combo's require different things, and the 4" runner worked well on my GTO, but not with Carlos's Camaro. But since the runers are interchangeable, we can swap them out for different ones. Probably the difference in having a L76 vs a FAST as a base comaprison.
In the mean time, we have hired someone here who has a reasonably built 6.0 Camaro, with a FAST manifold on it now. We will be dyno-ing it starting next week experimenting with different runner lengths, including the 4" to compare them back to back with the FAST. This car represents, a majority of LS1tech-ers, and comparison to FAST is the benchmark. I will post the dyno runs, and build the next set of runners based on what works well with the Camaro.
We do stand behind our product 100%, and have done everything possible to date to work with Carlos, including working a second shift the night before Christmas eve, overnighting parts back and forth, and responding to his feedback in an expidited manner. His feedback has been very detailed and professional, and much appriciated. This industry is way too small to ignore any customer, so please don't feel as though we have ignored anyone.
Feedback/ thoughts/ and opinions through posts, PM's or phone calls, are all always welcome.
Vinny
01-10-2009, 06:28 PM
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nice seeing you this week 98Z28CobraKiller. i would post some pics over at need2speed of everybody but an out of control 
mod over there is being an *** and keeps changing my screen name. please post up when you get the results of the 90/90. i would love to see what Loudmouths intake would do to help you out. i am still on the fence with his.
mod over there is being an *** and keeps changing my screen name. please post up when you get the results of the 90/90. i would love to see what Loudmouths intake would do to help you out. i am still on the fence with his.
01-10-2009, 06:51 PM
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nice seeing you this week 98Z28CobraKiller. i would post some pics over at need2speed of everybody but an out of control mod over there is being an *** and keeps changing my screen name. please post up when you get the results of the 90/90. i would love to see what Loudmouths intake would do to help you out. i am still on the fence with his.
mod over there is being an *** and keeps changing my screen name. please post up when you get the results of the 90/90. i would love to see what Loudmouths intake would do to help you out. i am still on the fence with his.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N3YlivG3Jc
I'm pretty convinced it works, especially since the car has gone faster, but I would love to see a comparison still!
01-10-2009, 07:16 PM
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send me the pics dave and i'll put them up. Oh and this video shows pretty good what my intake does down low (the down low is not just the intake obviously, the cam is hurtin me down there too, and if the car was all motor it would have a huge stall so I am never down there, but it's not, so on motor it's a turd!) and UP TOP!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N3YlivG3Jc
I'm pretty convinced it works, especially since the car has gone faster, but I would love to see a comparison still!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N3YlivG3Jc
I'm pretty convinced it works, especially since the car has gone faster, but I would love to see a comparison still!
01-10-2009, 07:45 PM
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And it's really not all that dead down low either, guess it's just a mix of everything that makes it real piggish down low on motor.
Oh and either my tach is off a couple hundred rpm or the dyno's tach was, cuz I had the shiftlight set at 7500 and I let off at the light, but the dyno graph shows about 7300 or so.
01-10-2009, 08:08 PM
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Oh yeah and i'm pretty sure my dyno graph shows it works too!!!
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...r-Newsetup.jpg
And it's really not all that dead down low either, guess it's just a mix of everything that makes it real piggish down low on motor.
Oh and either my tach is off a couple hundred rpm or the dyno's tach was, cuz I had the shiftlight set at 7500 and I let off at the light, but the dyno graph shows about 7300 or so.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...r-Newsetup.jpg
And it's really not all that dead down low either, guess it's just a mix of everything that makes it real piggish down low on motor.
Oh and either my tach is off a couple hundred rpm or the dyno's tach was, cuz I had the shiftlight set at 7500 and I let off at the light, but the dyno graph shows about 7300 or so.
01-10-2009, 08:32 PM
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If he picks his MPH and ET back up in line with his former runs it would pretty much guarantee the significant loss of average power his first outting looks to indicate....basically he would have conducted an A - B - A track test of sorts.
Sure a dyno curve would be the best (to really quantify) but his track results are still a good indicator of whats going on....it just leaves questions to potentially how large the losses/gains actually are.
I cant believe none of you guys said sheet about Carlos's new avatar....I roll every time I see it
I had the opportunity to PM Vinny (the man behind this intake) and for what its worth he seems like a solid guy who cares that probably wishes he had a chance to do more testing before the actual product release. He is working on some things right now in an effort to quantify and at least potentially improve the results.
Cheers,
Tony
Last edited by Tony Mamo @ AFR; 01-10-2009 at 10:32 PM.
01-11-2009, 07:39 AM
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No hand-me-downs for you!
It's a guinea pig, Dumbass. Like me with this intake. Geesh....
01-11-2009, 10:34 AM
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I about fell out when i noticed the avatar, that is funny. But on a serious note, i hope you get the intake working better for you Carlos, i would be sick if i just spent that kind of money and got these results. But after all this it makes me wonder if a ported Fast isnt the best intake for the car period. Especially after the guy in the Drag racing section w/ the TFS heads went 115 mph NA on pump gas and a ported fast in the 1/8 th. It really makes me rethink my setup since i just sold mine to get the GMPP intake and 4 bl TB.