Torque Management delete on M6???
03-23-2009, 01:46 PM
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Torque Management delete on M6??? I have heard that you can delete the torque management on automatics but can you delete them on manuals.. and if u can does it really help any?
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03-23-2009, 10:48 PM
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Thats not just your opinion, it's fact. But that attachment isn't "M6 TM" it's Engine TM and just shows the amount of retard commanded to get the desired tq reduction, which as far as I can tell is non-existant seeing as all the tables are maxed out on a stock tune.
03-24-2009, 12:28 AM
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Trust me, if you zero out these tables in an M6 tune you will gain.
I've seen and used many write ups on A4 TM delete that forget these tables.
A4 or M6 these need to be zero'd out.
I've logged A4 and M6 cars with these tables stock and they pull way too much timing. M6 gets the signal off the CPP switch.
If you think I'm wrong, just don't post again because I really don't care what you do.
I've seen and used many write ups on A4 TM delete that forget these tables.
A4 or M6 these need to be zero'd out.
I've logged A4 and M6 cars with these tables stock and they pull way too much timing. M6 gets the signal off the CPP switch.
If you think I'm wrong, just don't post again because I really don't care what you do.
Out of curiosity though, if you really dont care what I do why tell me not to post again?
03-24-2009, 11:02 AM
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call me stupid but i have no idea wat yall are talking about.. lol... i know what tm does and stuff but some stuff yall are saying is beyond me... i am kinda a newbie at all the tuning and deleteing stuff off you pcm..
03-24-2009, 02:12 PM
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Every time I post something thats opposite of what people think, it turns into an arguement or pissing match. I'm tired of that.
All I'm saying is that those tables give the VCM (or PCM, ECM whatever you prefer) the ability to pull timing in an effort to reduce torque. Zero them out and they can no longer pull timing.
Heres one more, nothing even to do with TM, these need to be brought out of the negative too. Mine are at 10 (not -10)
I'm just a dumbass though, I ran 12.6 with a lid, exhaust and my own tuning.
It's an '01 camaro with 93,000 miles. Mods? lid, exhaust. People say my tuning ideas are fucked up so I guess I won't consider it a modification and won't mention it.
Not trying to be a smartass but it works for me for some odd reason even though people disagree.
All I'm saying is that those tables give the VCM (or PCM, ECM whatever you prefer) the ability to pull timing in an effort to reduce torque. Zero them out and they can no longer pull timing.
Heres one more, nothing even to do with TM, these need to be brought out of the negative too. Mine are at 10 (not -10)
I'm just a dumbass though, I ran 12.6 with a lid, exhaust and my own tuning.
It's an '01 camaro with 93,000 miles. Mods? lid, exhaust. People say my tuning ideas are fucked up so I guess I won't consider it a modification and won't mention it.
Not trying to be a smartass but it works for me for some odd reason even though people disagree.
03-24-2009, 02:31 PM
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one thing i have gotten from this post is that i need to get a tune... The best i can run right now is a 13.2 with ls6 intake headers and custom x pipe with two dynomax bullet mufflers dumped... I keep gettn told that you dont need to get a tune unless you do something major like a cam or something bug internal wise....
03-24-2009, 03:18 PM
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Even on a stock car you will gain a little something from a tune. And any significant change in airflow will benefit from a retune to get the a/f back on track. My car still has the stock motor with all the bolt-ons and my stock airflow maps were way off, which means a tune would help a good bit with a full bolt-on car. I dont have any comparisons between my tune and stock but I had a dyno tune done by a well know performance shop around here and I still gained .2 in the 1/4 when I did my own tune so I would imagine I gained a bit more than that over stock.
03-24-2009, 05:25 PM
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ok well i guess i see a tune in my future then... do i ned to do a before and after dyno too with the tune... i know nothing about tuning if n e one hasnt noticed at
03-24-2009, 07:40 PM
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You don't absolutely need a tune, but you will benefit from one. I'm going to do a log here in a few minutes to see if any timing is pulled with all the TM tables stock.