Seen 34-38 as the norm for most with cam and/or head work. 
need msd 6010 timing advice
need msd 6010 timing advice I'm running the 6010 with my 750 on the gmp intake, stock displacement ls2 with a nice cam. Msd is useless with their tech support and I was wondering which of the 6 plug ins I should start with.
thanx,
chris.
thanx,
chris.
I agree with the timing at 6k because in my experience I think I need around 34 but don't know enough to use my laptop on the box. I'm not sure how much I can screw things up so I'm better off leaving that to a pro.
You will be amazed at how easy it is to plot a timing graph. You just click where you want to make a change and then drag the line there and let up on the mouse button. It will take a major effort, on your part, to screw it up.
Since the last post 'Ive done some good road course testing including winning my class at the kit car nationals
at gateway intl so thanx for the advice guys. I figured out how to get the laptop/box talking and made up a few graphs trying different timing routes but it all doesn't seem to FEEL any different (other than when I got rid of the stock program, huge difference) so I understand I need to dyno for the max benefit but I want to learn more about what timing does and how it works to be able to make up a few graphs and just load them run after run to save some time. I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to motors, just not too ...err...techy.
Any ideas on where to get schooled on making a timing graph? or can someone share theirs with an estimated hp?
thanx,
chris.
at gateway intl so thanx for the advice guys. I figured out how to get the laptop/box talking and made up a few graphs trying different timing routes but it all doesn't seem to FEEL any different (other than when I got rid of the stock program, huge difference) so I understand I need to dyno for the max benefit but I want to learn more about what timing does and how it works to be able to make up a few graphs and just load them run after run to save some time. I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to motors, just not too ...err...techy.Any ideas on where to get schooled on making a timing graph? or can someone share theirs with an estimated hp?
thanx,
chris.
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Well, I raced this car at 36* so it does work but I followed the advice of a local company that builds race ls9'S and did the machine work on my block and his recomendation was to set it at 29* max at 6k and I have to admit after i did that the car was much less notchy and stumbly in the pits and more driveable. I did a progressive curve similar to the factory one hitting 28 * at 3k and 29* at 5.5k with the rev limit set at 6600.
But without knowing more about timing i would have to say I just winged it.
But without knowing more about timing i would have to say I just winged it.
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Verdad Gallardo Hmmm, looks like no one really knows anything about ignition curves.Interesting. Well I plan on spending about half a day on the dyno and will draw up numerous charts to program and I'll post my findings.
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i'm used to sbc's and they love timing so 28-29degrees sounds retarded to me but i also have heard ls engines dont like as much timing... i's love to see more info...even tho i'm 2 months away from running....
Car picked up everytime I added timing from 28 above 3500 to up to 30, then up to 32, that's as far as I got at the dragstrip with a buddies car. Never got to tune on mine much since I don't own a laptop yet.
Here is what 36 degrees timing from the Edelbox will do if you have just a little more than stock compression. Just listen to the engine.
http://www.streetfire.net/video/Quic...ith_123863.htm
http://www.streetfire.net/video/Quic...ith_123863.htm
Cool video! lol. My car drove like a scalded dog on the track at 36 but I've had some very knowledgable people tell me at 6k it has to be under 30*. I wonder if road racing would be different to drag because i could stay close to or above 6k for periods of time instead of shifting.
