need msd 6010 timing advice
10-02-2009, 06:01 PM
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need msd 6010 timing advice I'm running the 6010 with my 750 on the gmp intake, stock displacement ls2 with a nice cam. Msd is useless with their tech support and I was wondering which of the 6 plug ins I should start with.
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chris.
thanx,
chris.
10-03-2009, 06:34 PM
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I agree with the timing at 6k because in my experience I think I need around 34 but don't know enough to use my laptop on the box. I'm not sure how much I can screw things up so I'm better off leaving that to a pro.
02-13-2010, 10:07 AM
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Since the last post 'Ive done some good road course testing including winning my class at the kit car nationals
at gateway intl so thanx for the advice guys. I figured out how to get the laptop/box talking and made up a few graphs trying different timing routes but it all doesn't seem to FEEL any different (other than when I got rid of the stock program, huge difference) so I understand I need to dyno for the max benefit but I want to learn more about what timing does and how it works to be able to make up a few graphs and just load them run after run to save some time. I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to motors, just not too ...err...techy.
Any ideas on where to get schooled on making a timing graph? or can someone share theirs with an estimated hp?
thanx,
chris.
at gateway intl so thanx for the advice guys. I figured out how to get the laptop/box talking and made up a few graphs trying different timing routes but it all doesn't seem to FEEL any different (other than when I got rid of the stock program, huge difference) so I understand I need to dyno for the max benefit but I want to learn more about what timing does and how it works to be able to make up a few graphs and just load them run after run to save some time. I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to motors, just not too ...err...techy.Any ideas on where to get schooled on making a timing graph? or can someone share theirs with an estimated hp?
thanx,
chris.
Seen 34-38 as the norm for most with cam and/or head work.
02-13-2010, 03:54 PM
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Well, I raced this car at 36* so it does work but I followed the advice of a local company that builds race ls9'S and did the machine work on my block and his recomendation was to set it at 29* max at 6k and I have to admit after i did that the car was much less notchy and stumbly in the pits and more driveable. I did a progressive curve similar to the factory one hitting 28 * at 3k and 29* at 5.5k with the rev limit set at 6600.
But without knowing more about timing i would have to say I just winged it.
But without knowing more about timing i would have to say I just winged it.
02-19-2010, 01:11 PM
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Hmmm, looks like no one really knows anything about ignition curves.Interesting. Well I plan on spending about half a day on the dyno and will draw up numerous charts to program and I'll post my findings.
02-19-2010, 01:51 PM
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i'm used to sbc's and they love timing so 28-29degrees sounds retarded to me but i also have heard ls engines dont like as much timing... i's love to see more info...even tho i'm 2 months away from running....
02-20-2010, 04:50 PM
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Here is what 36 degrees timing from the Edelbox will do if you have just a little more than stock compression. Just listen to the engine.
http://www.streetfire.net/video/Quic...ith_123863.htm
http://www.streetfire.net/video/Quic...ith_123863.htm
02-22-2010, 05:40 PM
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Cool video! lol. My car drove like a scalded dog on the track at 36 but I've had some very knowledgable people tell me at 6k it has to be under 30*. I wonder if road racing would be different to drag because i could stay close to or above 6k for periods of time instead of shifting.
04-12-2010, 04:48 PM
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Any updates? I was running my timing at 28*, but just a few weeks ago I changed it to 32* and it seemed to like it. I plan to try more timing when i get to a real track.
