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Old Aug 2, 2023 | 08:48 PM
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With headers installed and the engine in the car, it seems that I can’t remove the starter because of this tab (maybe I could if I screwed with it for another hour, IDK).

If I cut this tab off the block, I am pretty sure I could get it out. Is there any reason I shouldn’t do that? I would really like to be able to change the starter without unbolting headers.

If it matters, this is an LS3 block in a 2002 Z28.



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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 01:40 AM
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With headers installed and the engine in the car, it seems that I can’t remove the starter because of this tab (maybe I could if I screwed with it for another hour, IDK).

If I cut this tab off the block, I am pretty sure I could get it out. Is there any reason I shouldn’t do that? I would really like to be able to change the starter without unbolting headers.

If it matters, this is an LS3 block in a 2002 Z28.


Machining register, not going to hurt anything if you cut the half of it off.
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 09:18 AM
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Curious as to why you cant get it out? I have the LS3 aluminum block in my 02 ws6 with long tube headers and it easily comes out.
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 11:16 AM
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Curious as to why you cant get it out? I have the LS3 aluminum block in my 02 ws6 with long tube headers and it easily comes out.
I’m curious as well, one would think all LS style blocks use the same register location. I have an LS2 block with Pacesetter long tubes and do not have any issues. I am however running a genuine GM rebuilt LS3 starter.
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 12:30 PM
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While not an absolute rule, cutting on your block generally means your doing something wrong.
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 02:57 PM
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While not an absolute rule, cutting on your block generally means your doing something wrong.
Saying an individual is doing something wrong isn’t really a fair thing to say. In the performance world things get cut, ground, modified, and welded all of the time. Another example of cutting registers applies when installing a turbo 400 into the 4th gen platform.

Cutting them off does not jeopardize any structural integrity. It’s just a nature of the beast and what this forum was created for and based upon quite some time ago.

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Originally Posted by klinznilk
Curious as to why you cant get it out? I have the LS3 aluminum block in my 02 ws6 with long tube headers and it easily comes out.
It’s a truck starter; might be a little bigger than yours? And/or maybe the headers are different? Mine are Kooks.

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Okay, so — engine in the car. How would you cut it off? I don’t have any ideas I actually like. It’s crowded up there. Right now the only way to get the starter out would be to remove the header on that side, which I’d prefer not to do for gasket reasons.

Cutoff wheel on the disk grinder: not enough room.
Sawzall: too wild and risky.
Hacksaw: would take sooo loooong.

Hacksaw seems to be the best option, unless any of you have a better idea? I’d like a clean cut if at all possible.
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Being aluminum, it might not be so bad using a hacksaw. Iron would be another story.....
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Okay, so — engine in the car. How would you cut it off? I don’t have any ideas I actually like. It’s crowded up there. Right now the only way to get the starter out would be to remove the header on that side, which I’d prefer not to do for gasket reasons.

Cutoff wheel on the disk grinder: not enough room.
Sawzall: too wild and risky.
Hacksaw: would take sooo loooong.

Hacksaw seems to be the best option, unless any of you have a better idea? I’d like a clean cut if at all possible.
I’d plow through it with a straight non ferrous 1/4” carbide burr and die grinder. Basically using it like a mill.
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I’d plow through it with a straight non ferrous 1/4” carbide burr and die grinder. Basically using it like a mill.
Hmmm, maybe. I'd have to get said burr. In general, my experience with die grinders is that they're really hard to control -- the bit bites into the material and then kicks back -- but maybe I've just been using the wrong type of bit? A specific recommendation (i.e. link to Amazon or whatever) would be appreciated if you have one.

I now realize that my oscillating saw (aka "multitool") came with a bit labeled "metal". I wonder if that would do it.

EDIT: it's one of
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. Not carbide or anything, so maybe won't work -- but I already have it, so might as well give it a shot! Regardless, I think this is the way.

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I'd do a multi tool or hacksaw before I used a burr. A burr would make a mess, scattering alum all over the place. No thanks.
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
Hmmm, maybe. I'd have to get said burr. In general, my experience with die grinders is that they're really hard to control -- the bit bites into the material and then kicks back -- but maybe I've just been using the wrong type of bit? A specific recommendation (i.e. link to Amazon or whatever) would be appreciated if you have one.

I now realize that my oscillating saw (aka "multitool") came with a bit labeled "metal". I wonder if that would do it.
Kickback can occur from improper speed, pressure or angle, using the wrong bit for task, and improper grip of the tool. They will also take off on you if running the same direction as tool rotation and not holding tight. Burrs also like a little oil and that helps prevent chatter. This is what you are looking for and now that I’m thinking about it an air powered hobby saw would work well too.


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I couldn’t wait. I’m supposed to be working, but I work from home, and the garage is all of fifteen feet from my desk. Had to know if this would work!

My existing metal blade on the oscillating saw worked fine. Took under sixty seconds to complete the cut. Easy to control, minimal mess. I think the second cut will finish off the blade (the teeth are gumming up with aluminum), but it’ll get the job done before that happens!
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I'd do a multi tool or hacksaw before I used a burr. A burr would make a mess, scattering alum all over the place. No thanks.
Sometimes you have to do what you have to do, regardless of the mess. Hacksaw would take forever and aren’t those multi tools kind of bulky for that tight of a spot? I’ve never used one so I don’t know but my guess is it’s not going to fit.
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I couldn’t wait. I’m supposed to be working, but I work from home, and the garage is all of fifteen feet from my desk. Had to know if this would work!

My existing metal blade on the oscillating saw worked fine. Took under sixty seconds to complete the cut. Easy to control, minimal mess. I think the second cut will finish off the blade (the teeth are gumming up with aluminum), but it’ll get the job done before that happens!

Glad to see progress, lube the blade with soapy water or ATF.
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aren’t those multi tools kind of bulky for that tight of a spot? I’ve never used one so I don’t know but my guess is it’s not going to fit.
Nah, they're pretty versatile with a plunge cut blade.
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Couldn’t help myself again; went out and finished the job.

I did my best to stay out of the way, but that chunk of aluminum fell right on my forehead. 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

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I hope you wore safety glasses!
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I hope you wore safety glasses!
Maybe, but the chunk of aluminum hit his head which caused a brain seizure, changing his whole mindset of preferences. All things automotive have been sold off/given away.
He is now fully into macrame and all forms of knitting, with a little needlepoint on the side....
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