Relocated coils - spark plug wires and MAF question
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Relocated coils - spark plug wires and MAF question hi guys,
hoping someone can advise me on a good set of spark plug wires for my L76 conversion (into a AC cobra replica). Ive relocated the coils off to the side on top of the footboxes, and need to make up some custom plug wires. If someone could suggest a suitable set off summit or similar that would be great.
I also need to design my intake - Im curious about MAF placemet. does it matter how close it is to the TB of filter - filter is likely to be just a single K&N pod. MAFless is not an option due to compliance laws.
Cheers
hoping someone can advise me on a good set of spark plug wires for my L76 conversion (into a AC cobra replica). Ive relocated the coils off to the side on top of the footboxes, and need to make up some custom plug wires. If someone could suggest a suitable set off summit or similar that would be great.
I also need to design my intake - Im curious about MAF placemet. does it matter how close it is to the TB of filter - filter is likely to be just a single K&N pod. MAFless is not an option due to compliance laws.
Cheers
MSD makes a set of wires that can be cut to fit, but I believe that LT1 wires have the correct ends on them for the coils. You might try looking at a set, at the parts store, just to make sure. If they will work, I am sure they would be cheaper. The MSD wires are expensive.
I make custom length MSD 8.5 Superconductor wires (red or black) for just this purpose. 5yr guaranty on them same as the factory wire. IT would cost you about $100 from summit for all the materials to do them yourself for the 8.5 superconductor wire and componants. PM if your interested.
I also sell a coil relocation kit but you've already got that covered..lol
I also sell a coil relocation kit but you've already got that covered..lol
MSD makes a set of 8.5 wires specificly for coil relocation for a LS series engine..it has every thing you need to do the wires in the kit .. You will have to either buy a kit from a vendor or fab one up to mount the coil pacs ... I spent about $15 at home depot on the material to mount the coils .. I do not have the MSD part number handy but I will post it up for you tomorrow .. these are photos using Taylor Spiro Pro wires from a few years ago when I moved the coils..I just bought the MSD wires and do not have any pics of them on the car ... but it looks the same for the most part.
Last edited by slt200mph; May 9, 2008 at 03:28 PM.
OR you can buy my relocation kit and have it all done for you. My brackets are powder coated as well and my wires garanteed. You cant make as nice a set of wires for the same money as I sell them for plus if you have one seperate you have to fix it with money out of your pocket. With mine all you do is send it to me and I'll replace it for free for 5 yrs.
Here is the link for the universal sets. I sell them as well.
http://www.msdignition.com/wire_3.htm
Here is the link for the universal sets. I sell them as well.
http://www.msdignition.com/wire_3.htm
OR you can buy my relocation kit and have it all done for you. My brackets are powder coated as well and my wires garanteed. You cant make as nice a set of wires for the same money as I sell them for plus if you have one seperate you have to fix it with money out of your pocket. With mine all you do is send it to me and I'll replace it for free for 5 yrs.
Here is the link for the universal sets. I sell them as well.
http://www.msdignition.com/wire_3.htm
Here is the link for the universal sets. I sell them as well.
http://www.msdignition.com/wire_3.htm
I vote for 99blancoSS's kit.....we will using his. for the price you can't go wrong.
The part number for the MSD Super Conductor Wires for LS series engine coil relocation is 32079 it comes with a wire cutter and crimper. Moroso actually makes the bracket to mount the coil pacs for LS series engine coil relocation the Moroso part number for this item is 72395...
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LMAO!! those crimpers work great toooo NOT!
Plus whats the price of that kit??? here I'll tell you 100.70 from Summit plus their handling fee of 11.75.
From me..... 100.70 with a free set of NGK plugs for the exact same kit...
OR order custom length from me for a bigger savings. If you dont need all that much wire why pay for it?
You can spend more money or you can shop with me and get a free replacment if it comes apart for 5 yrs. You wont get that from MSD on that set or Summit.
And that Moroso kit is $15 more money and does not come with MSD 8.5mm Superconductor wires (regarded as the best) guaranteed for 5yrs.
I also run specials on my kit for $130 delivered from time to time.
You can spend more money and get less if you want, it's your call but most people like to get the most for their money.
Plus whats the price of that kit??? here I'll tell you 100.70 from Summit plus their handling fee of 11.75.
From me..... 100.70 with a free set of NGK plugs for the exact same kit...
OR order custom length from me for a bigger savings. If you dont need all that much wire why pay for it?
You can spend more money or you can shop with me and get a free replacment if it comes apart for 5 yrs. You wont get that from MSD on that set or Summit.
And that Moroso kit is $15 more money and does not come with MSD 8.5mm Superconductor wires (regarded as the best) guaranteed for 5yrs.
I also run specials on my kit for $130 delivered from time to time.
You can spend more money and get less if you want, it's your call but most people like to get the most for their money.
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Verdad Gallardo I have no idea what the price for the Moroso coil pacs bracket is ... it was not listed as a kit just as brackets for coil relocation mounting .. I just noticed it in their new catalog and thought that I'd make people aware that is was available ... I made my own three years ago when nothing was available ...but now it is available for those who do not have the skill or time to fabricate them .. it is nice to see that vendors are now offering LS series specific parts for the market now days .. on the other hand I have found that the crimp tool that MSD supplies with their wires works very well .. 
.. have a Happy *****'s Day
.. have a Happy *****'s Day I can point you to a thread where someone is having an issue with wires coming apart from one of those crimpers.
Katech has a very nice kit as well but its more money too.
At Nastys we sell another style of bracket, a billet bracket but again more money.
No problem at all with you pointing out other options, its good to do. ( Summit has it listed) I just like to point out the fact that I've looked at those other things and offer a better deal
Mom would be proud of you for saving money and making a smart purchase...LOL
Also I compliment you on your engine bay it looks awesome! You've done a great job and put a lot of hard work into it and it shows.
Katech has a very nice kit as well but its more money too.
At Nastys we sell another style of bracket, a billet bracket but again more money.
No problem at all with you pointing out other options, its good to do. ( Summit has it listed) I just like to point out the fact that I've looked at those other things and offer a better deal
Mom would be proud of you for saving money and making a smart purchase...LOLAlso I compliment you on your engine bay it looks awesome! You've done a great job and put a lot of hard work into it and it shows.
Last edited by 99blancoSS; May 11, 2008 at 03:10 PM.
As far as the MAF goes, anywhere before the TB but ideally
someplace with a foot or so of straight pipe preceding; bends
can bias the airflow some and jack the calibration especially
if using a screenless MAF.
You could go speed-density and hollow out a junk MAF of
course. That would pass visual. Though you might get hung up
if they check OS#.
someplace with a foot or so of straight pipe preceding; bends
can bias the airflow some and jack the calibration especially
if using a screenless MAF.
You could go speed-density and hollow out a junk MAF of
course. That would pass visual. Though you might get hung up
if they check OS#.
I can point you to a thread where someone is having an issue with wires coming apart from one of those crimpers.
Katech has a very nice kit as well but its more money too.
At Nastys we sell another style of bracket, a billet bracket but again more money.
No problem at all with you pointing out other options, its good to do. I just like to point out the fact that I've looked at those other things and offer a better deal Mom would be proud of you for saving money and making a smart purchase...LOL
Katech has a very nice kit as well but its more money too.
At Nastys we sell another style of bracket, a billet bracket but again more money.
No problem at all with you pointing out other options, its good to do. I just like to point out the fact that I've looked at those other things and offer a better deal
Mom would be proud of you for saving money and making a smart purchase...LOLPS Yes my Mom is very proud of me ... I made my own coil pac relocation kit for the cost of some plug wires and $12 of material at home depot long before anyone was offering a kit to do it .. that is the problem with the hobby today... few use their brain to figure out how to modify, fabricate, or customize something ... they just want to go and buy it .. 45 years ago when I started doing this hot rod thing you had to make almost everything ...
I have no idea what the price for the Moroso coil pacs bracket is ... it was not listed as a kit just as brackets for coil relocation mounting .. I just noticed it in their new catalog and thought that I'd make people aware that is was available ... I made my own three years ago when nothing was available ...but now it is available for those who do not have the skill or time to fabricate them .. it is nice to see that vendors are now offering LS series specific parts for the market now days .. on the other hand I have found that the crimp tool that MSD supplies with their wires works very well .. .. have a Happy *****'s Day
.. have a Happy *****'s DayConcerning wires, I'm NOT a fan of the MSD wires. If you want the best wires, Magnecor is it. They will manufacture custom wires, guaranteed for life, for no extra cost.
Yep, most anything can be done cheaper if you do it yourself but not everyone has the skills or means to do it like you said. That’s why there are stores and shops that sell products for people to buy. If you had your own cow you wouldn’t have to buy milk.
Lets face it if you wanted to, you could mount and balance your own tires as well.
But what your paying for when you buy a product that someone else has put together is their time and effort and mistakes and trials and errors. You cant build and powder coat the brackets I sell for less money. Unless you do your own powder coating and have aluminum stock already on hand.
Then the wires, well I've already shown you the better deal there.
I have customers who have made their own brackets and thrown them out and bought mine instead. Because they look much nicer and most cant duplicate them for less. There are aluminum spacers and nuts and bolts and acorn nut and nylon insert lock nuts in my kit.
If you have a shop at your disposal and textured black satin Paint and a PC setup and oven then ok you got me there.
I sell the complete kit for less than you can build it for but you insist on carrying on with this. Now your attacking people who don’t build their own kit or manufacture their own parts to prove your point of which I have no idea, except to try and put my kit or wires down it seems. Not much else I can say, so I'm done with the conversation.
Lets face it if you wanted to, you could mount and balance your own tires as well.
But what your paying for when you buy a product that someone else has put together is their time and effort and mistakes and trials and errors. You cant build and powder coat the brackets I sell for less money. Unless you do your own powder coating and have aluminum stock already on hand.
Then the wires, well I've already shown you the better deal there.
I have customers who have made their own brackets and thrown them out and bought mine instead. Because they look much nicer and most cant duplicate them for less. There are aluminum spacers and nuts and bolts and acorn nut and nylon insert lock nuts in my kit.
If you have a shop at your disposal and textured black satin Paint and a PC setup and oven then ok you got me there.
I sell the complete kit for less than you can build it for but you insist on carrying on with this. Now your attacking people who don’t build their own kit or manufacture their own parts to prove your point of which I have no idea, except to try and put my kit or wires down it seems. Not much else I can say, so I'm done with the conversation.
Last edited by 99blancoSS; May 11, 2008 at 04:41 PM.
I have the Moroso 72395 coil relocation kit and it is super nice. It's black anodize billet aluminum with stainless rods. It's enough parts to relocate both sides, but does not come with plug wires. I paid $129 for the kit.
Concerning wires, I'm NOT a fan of the MSD wires. If you want the best wires, Magnecor is it. They will manufacture custom wires, guaranteed for life, for no extra cost.
Concerning wires, I'm NOT a fan of the MSD wires. If you want the best wires, Magnecor is it. They will manufacture custom wires, guaranteed for life, for no extra cost.
SO lets look at that then.... for their universal set its $120 for the same thing MSD sells for 100.70. Yes you can always spend more money if you want. So if we go your route and spend $129 on the brackets and then $120 on the wire kit your looking at $249 ??!?? If you buy the MSD set and the Moroso brackets its 229.70.. what about shipping?? Its free with me.
For most people 5yrs is the life of the car. I'll guaranty my crimps for life if that will shut you up.
Look guys, I offer a nice kit with excellent wires for an extremely reasonable price with a warranty on the wires. You both seem to want to attack it so I'm done with this. If someone is interested in it they can pm me. Have a nice day
Last edited by 99blancoSS; May 11, 2008 at 04:51 PM.
Yes you can always spend more money if you want. So if we go your route and spend $129 on the brackets and then $120 on the wire kit your looking at $249 ??!?? If you buy the MSD set and the Moroso brackets its 229.70.. what about shipping?? Its free with me.
For most people 5yrs is the life of the car. I'll guaranty my crimps for life if that will shut you up.
For most people 5yrs is the life of the car. I'll guaranty my crimps for life if that will shut you up.
As far as attacking you, I came late into this thread and was not attacking you in any way. I was just stating that I had experience with the Moroso relocation kit and my OPINION on plug wires. Don't take it personal, no harm intended.
I did not attacked you or your wire kit or anyone who prefers to buy instead of fabricate their own parts ... just as 405HP_Z06 did not attack you either... I just stated some facts and shared some information ... all I did was post up some part numbers of some products that were available ... you took it as an attack .. 
... I understand that you are enthusiastic about selling your product ... but you should understand that you are not going to sell everybody ... and than a lower price is not nessessarly the deciding factor either ... calm down and don't take everything so personally ... maybe you should consider trying some decaf coffee ... 
PS Just a little FYI for you .. My relocation assembly has polished aluminum parts, chrome acorn nuts and locking nuts too...you do not have the market cornered on any of those items ... for function and appearance I would put it up against any on the market ... but that is not here nor there as I am not in the retail parts business.
... I understand that you are enthusiastic about selling your product ... but you should understand that you are not going to sell everybody ... and than a lower price is not nessessarly the deciding factor either ... calm down and don't take everything so personally ... maybe you should consider trying some decaf coffee ... PS Just a little FYI for you .. My relocation assembly has polished aluminum parts, chrome acorn nuts and locking nuts too...you do not have the market cornered on any of those items ... for function and appearance I would put it up against any on the market ... but that is not here nor there as I am not in the retail parts business.
