LS1LT1

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It was most likely due to the fact that the LS2 (and LS3) come with intakes with a 90mm throttle body opening and the LS6 intake doesn't have that maybe?

03 BUSA

iTrader: (25)

How about the issues with the big cams that we see with the L92 heads? Will this manifold allow for really big cams like the standard LS1/6 heads would allow?

allthrotle

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Price will be 649.95 and is supposed to be released mid to late oct.

WKMCD

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Is this a one piece manifold like the LS1/1/2/76 or can it be opened up ala the FAST?

poorhousenext

I'm like some of the other members, I'd like to be able to follow the lines of each. It took a while to tell that on the top end the stock manifold outperforms the Starr Manifold based on each's curve shape prior to crossing.

Now since this is 3rd party independent testing, I'd like to see what AFR looks like on all the runs and to know if they did a bolt on with or without tuning for best results with each. Maybe they did state that, and I missed it.

Sure would like see what the Starr would do on top end with a larger TB too.

edcmat-l1

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I'm sure they'll serve a purpose, but overall, I'm not impressed.
It sure hasn't bridged the gap for the L92 guys. The last thing Kevin's car needs is more low end/mid range torque. I wanna see a manifold that performs like a FAST on a L92 headed stroker. Most of the L92 stroker crowd would give up a few mid range foot pounds for an extended top end.
Sorry to poo poo. Doesn't take away from the quality R&D by Mast though.

2000_SS

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my sentiments exactly...

MeentSS02

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First and foremost, thank you to Mast for doing this. Yeah, a lot of us would like to see this manifold against its direct aftermarket competitor (the FAST) to see what it has to offer versus the competition, but overall it looks like this manifold hit the design point they were after.

AINT SKEERED

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I thought I seen from the start that it was geared more for tq and midrange power . If that is the case , looks like they delivered. Nice seat of the pants feel but may not pull as high up top. great for cars running baby cams imo.

CraZee ZO6

since this is street warrior I wonder if they will come out with a track heat setup with more uptop hit.

LS1LT1

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Yes it is a one piece manifold more like the factory LS1-LS7 style intakes than the multi piece FAST units.
Not sure if it the areas that are accessible with a Dremel/die grinder such as the throttle body opening and cylinder head ports can still be ported or not though (like the factory intakes can be), it does have that tuned Formula 1 style trumpet design going on in there.

JJD49

They advertised big gains over the LS6 yet they test it against a different intake. It looks like this one and a lS6 will be a close call and The FAST and Typhoon 96 will still be a step ahead of it. The Weiand takes a nap after 5000RPMs.

triggerjerk

Yep. Should make a good piece for mild combos.

MJD

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Comparison of advertised vs reality:

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LS2
Looking forward to seeing what it will do on an LS1 with a 90mm throttle body. Looks like they may be pretty close to their claims.

The Alchemist

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I thought I read that the ls2 intake was actually worse than the ls1 intake in terms of power, or maybe it falls in between the ls1 and ls6 intakes.

Just like everyone else, I want to see what it does in a car with a set of heads and cam compared to the FAST 9x (90 or 92mm).

LS1LT1

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I've heard that as well, that the stock LS6 intake is in many ways still better than the stock LS2 intake at least.
I'm thinking that an LS6 intake with a 90mm throttle body opening grafted onto it (like TPIS used to do (they had an 80x90 oval version too I think) before the FAST intakes came out) would still exceed the performance of the stock LS2 intake.

JS

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The intake was never designed to compare to a fast,let it go already..Its for a guy who wants mid range torque and good power to 6200.....If it make 20RW over a LS6 from 3000 to 5800 I am sold

BlackNiteWS6

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^^I know i'm sold on it when it comes out. Ever since i went to SEMA in 2003
with Tommy and Joe we gave the FAST i long hard look and there were isssues about
it that Tom and Joe didn't like. Even today the FI guys gain nothing from running a FAST.
I'm hoping the Warrior takes off...i like the one piece design...no gasket to leak and
they use a better material that will eliminate cracks.
I'm sending you a PM Joel.

Ragtop 99

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Looks like it may be a good addition for a bolt-on LS3, athough I wonder how it will do on a car with headers given the big midrange increase LG's already produce. Ported FAST still looks like the way to go on an LS2 if you have the $$, although this is ok as cheaper alternative.

If I had a Z06, I would not put on a manifold that reduces power from 6000 - 7000 rpm. That's precisely where the Z06 needs help.

macca33

Well, the results seem to mirror the claims, so we'll simply have to wait for them to be released and see how they compare to LS1/6 manifolds.

I find it amusing that people are still comparing them to a FAST - they are intended for different purposes and the advertising and sales spiel for the Weiand/Starr manifold NEVER said anything about a huge 6k+ rpm increase. They were designed for and are intended to give a good midrange boost for STREET cars. I cannot see too many people sitting at 6k+ all day long on the street. I can, however, see people taking advantage of the benefit of a manifold that will improve their car between 3-6000rpm.

I reckon these things are going to run out the door.

Cheers,

Macca