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Old 01-05-2009, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by lstvr
Sorry for my ignorance, but what is a filled block?
Simple answer, basically pour cement in the block.

http://www.hardblok.com/info.html
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Originally Posted by Fraser@SpeedInc
Simple answer, basically pour cement in the block.

http://www.hardblok.com/info.html
I see, but the cooling???
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Originally Posted by lstvr
I see, but the cooling???
In some instances like track only cars running alcohol which runs alot cooler you can get away with no coolant system but that's not too common.

What alot of people do is go with a 1/4, 1/2, or 3/4 fill. It lowers the cooling capabilitys but still keeps coolant flowing up top around the combustion area.

Filling a block also helps with cylinder rigidity at high rpms and has been proven to show power gains. At high rpms your cylinder is doing some crazy stuff and you may have issues with rings sealing properly at those high rpms. Filling a block reduces the problem as well.
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Originally Posted by Elcaballoloco
In some instances like track only cars running alcohol which runs alot cooler you can get away with no coolant system but that's not too common.

What alot of people do is go with a 1/4, 1/2, or 3/4 fill. It lowers the cooling capabilitys but still keeps coolant flowing up top around the combustion area.

Filling a block also helps with cylinder rigidity at high rpms and has been proven to show power gains. At high rpms your cylinder is doing some crazy stuff and you may have issues with rings sealing properly at those high rpms. Filling a block reduces the problem as well.
I see now, thanks for clearing that up for me chaps!
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This thread is old, but i hope to find some information about the finding of sonic testing of the remaining wall thickness after boring to 4.125" of LQ9 or LQ4
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All blocks will be different due to core shift and other casting differences. Sonic test your own block and bore accordingly.
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where to buy sonic tester or checker...
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Take it to a machine shop. They are too expensive to just buy and use once maybe twice.
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Originally Posted by LS6
where to buy sonic tester or checker...
Here you go. It's not like its 50 bucks but I think 330 bucks is still doable.

http://www.bulltear.com/catalog/prod...ucts_id=195%20
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Originally Posted by bww3588
Take it to a machine shop. They are too expensive to just buy and use once maybe twice.
I agree. Even if you do it yourself and get your measurements, you will still be right back on here asking what a minimum wall thickness is, and you will still get a dozen different answers. At least at a machine shop, you can explain your goals and they can give you a better answer based on experience.
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I just want to know if there is enough meat in the cylinder walls to go 4.070 so I can use an LS3 piston in an iron block and boost it.
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We done a sucessfully a 376ci (6.17 liters) engine using the LQ4 cylinder block, where we overbored the block to 4.066" and used the stock crankshaft. using milled 317 heads as N/A. The car working till now for three day with out any problems till now.

We checked with the machining shop, and they adviced there is sufficient thickness.
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Originally Posted by Wnts2Go10O
pistons, the lq9 uses flat tops, the lq4 uses dished.
LQ4 block, crank, rods, heads are the same. Pistons changed, not sure about the cam

Originally Posted by sixt9er
Oh SH*t!
You bored a 6.0L to 4.125" with no problems?
What other mods did you have to make to support that huge bore?
I'm just curious. Thanks.
Originally Posted by 93ls7z
They are not too thin, I run this thing pretty hard with nitrous on pump gas and have not had a bit of trouble yet. Just short filled the block and I pay attention to timing to keep it out of detonation.
What year block? Is it an LY6? I understood the newer 6.0 iron blocks were heavier than the old ones. 4.06" in the early days required the block to be sonic checked. 4.125" on a truck block would make for an inexpensive 427.
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Originally Posted by 01 blue ss
I just want to know if there is enough meat in the cylinder walls to go 4.070 so I can use an LS3 piston in an iron block and boost it.
Yes. I went to 4.065" on mine so 4.070" won't be a problem.
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I'm doing 4.030 bore, 4" forged crank and going 15psi, when I get thicker deck heads......20psi. Iron 6.0L.

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Originally Posted by KCS
Yes. I went to 4.065" on mine so 4.070" won't be a problem.
So you think 4.070 and let's say 20 psi will be alright? The block will be well prepped, I'm just worried about cylinder wall thickness.

There will be no hard block though.

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Apparently they never sonic tested that block or it was so thin they didn't want to disclose the results.
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Originally Posted by 01 blue ss
So you think 4.070 and let's say 20 psi will be alright? The block will be well prepped, I'm just worried about cylinder wall thickness.

There will be no hard block though.
20psi is enough boost that I would have it checked at least to see what it is, but I do know of similar setups that worked.
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With blocks and casting differences, it's hard to base things like cylinder wall thickness, deck height and other stuff off someone else's block.
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Just wanted to see if there were any sonic check results after a 4.125 overbore.
I believe .200 wall thickness is the safe N/A minimum.


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